 bencPremium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
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| Why do they have any customers? They're so high priced for what you get that a T1 is affordable compared to that.
With a T1 you get:
- Low latency
- Highly reliable
- No CAPs
- Awesome upload speed
- You will always get the speed you pay for.
With the Elite plan, 500MB a day = About 15GB without FAP.
With T1, you can get 487GB just in download. You can also upload 487GB too.
Even ISDN sounds better than Satellite. |
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jaminus
join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA | You make a good point, but keep in mind that most satellite customers live in rural areas where T1s are often priced from $700 to $1000 per month. Those $359 T1s are only in populated areas. And ISDNs aren't available everywhere, if I'm not mistaken. |
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bencPremium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL Reviews:
·Charter
| said by jaminus:You make a good point, but keep in mind that most satellite customers live in rural areas where T1s are often priced from $700 to $1000 per month. Those $359 T1s are only in populated areas. And ISDNs aren't available everywhere, if I'm not mistaken. $700?? Really? Hopefully that isn't the case everywhere. I'm probably missing something, but I thought it was an issue of connecting to the nearest C.O., since beyond that the necessary infrastructure is there. Right?
As for ISDN, I could be wrong but it was my understanding that nearly every C.O. can support it. However ISDN didn't take off largely because of broadband in the larger cities. 128k is terrible compared to say, 3M/768k. But it's still way better than 53K (more like 40K if you're lucky).
But, I've always assumed that if I wanted, I could call AT&T and tell them to give me ISDN.
Also, Wow...just wow. Sometimes I've thought that I'd like to live in a rural area. But that'd take a lot a money. After all like most users here I'm probably a bandwidth starved geek. |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to benc
said by benc:They're so high priced for what you get that a T1 is affordable compared to that. With a T1 you get: - Low latency - Highly reliable - No CAPs - Awesome upload speed - You will always get the speed you pay for. T1's in the boonies are a minimum of around $1000 per month, going way up to over $3k in places. Chances are that if you are in a location that is served only by satellite (no "cellular" data available), a T1 will be cost prohibitive.
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
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jaminus
join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA | reply to benc
Living in a rural area has a lot of financial advantages, too. Housing a heck of a lot cheaper in the country than the city, and restaurant prices are much more reasonable, too. Living in the city also entails cramped conditions, noisiness, crime, and a general lack of solitude that many people do not enjoy. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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Around here Verizon is the LEC. No CLEC. $1000+ for a T1, even in town. In other places Windstream-formerly-KTC is the LEC (again, no CLEC). $1200+ for a T1. Head over to the WiSP forum and see them complaining about low bandwidth availability at high prices in their areas. East of here, a Sprint T3 is $9000ish per month, so Verizon is dirt-cheap with 20 Mbit fiber at $2000 per month.
Of course, if you get yourself and ten neighbors together, you could (for the same setup cost as a single sat setup I'd think) get a T1 and it be affordable even with these disgusting rates. And have a fast 'net connection with no caps, throttling, etc.
15 GB a month...500 MB per day...that's insane. Over $10 per GB. Whew. Get Millenicom if 'n' you can! |
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