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 hotty198 join:2003-06-26 Palm Beach Gardens, FL 1 edit | reply to sturmvogel
Re: comcast issued a letter to me part 2 what about peer guardian? will this help at all? or do they(agents or whoever they are) have ways around peer guardian?
that comparison seems a little left field. but in actuality if someone patents a certain design you cant just go out and copy it right? not legally. even though they pretty much do. its a cut throat business world out there. | |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 1 edit | said by hotty198:what about peer guardian? will this help at all? or do they(agents or whoever they are) have ways around peer guardian? that comparison seems a little left field. but in actuality if someone patents a certain design you cant just go out and copy it right? not legally. even though they pretty much do. its a cut throat business world out there. You absolutely can copy a patented design and experiment with it, that's what patents are for -- to advance scientific knowledge. But the patent assignees have certain exclusive rights to market their invention for the term of the patent.
And to answer your Peer Guardian question, I wouldn't do any P2P without it. It's a fact that Media Defender and Media Sentry and the like interfere with people who are completely authorized to distribute everything that they are transferring (just try it and look at your logs!). The IP ranges for anti-P2P are always a little bit behind the times, just like virus definition files are only as good as the last discovered virus. But you don't let that fact keep you from running AV software, do you? -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More fun, more features, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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1 edit | reply to hotty198 said by hotty198:what about peer guardian? will this help at all? or do they(agents or whoever they are) have ways around peer guardian? "Peer Guardian" is a list of IP addresses suspect to be used by agents of the RIAA/MPAA in seeking out uploading peers. "Peer Guardian" has been know to offer both false positives (blocking IP addresses not being used by those agents) and false negatives (not blocking IP addresses used by those agents).
Yes, the agent have a way around "Peer Guardian". They get their own copy, find out which IP addresses are in the list, and stop using those IP addresses. They just sign up for services offering as yet unlisted IP addresses. It is a "Cat and Mouse" game. Your only hope to avoid infringement letters is to not infringe.
that comparison seems a little left field. but in actuality if someone patents a certain design you cant just go out and copy it right? not legally. even though they pretty much do. its a cut throat business world out there. Copying is not, necessarily, infringement. I rip music CDs all of the time. What I do not do is make my folders of CD rips available for public download. Not even as a "read only broadcast". The most you can ever find out about my rips is what I am playing (using those slick IM plug-ins which announce the name of the song I am listening to).
The RIAA would like to make all rips illegal, but, AFAIK, using rips to transfer data to playable media, as long as I am not selling, or otherwise "making available" the tunes, is not unauthorized. Nobody can use my computer while I am away from it. So the only time my rips are actually "available" is where ever I have the hardware to play the media myself.
FWIW, I have downloaded the following copyrighted material which was not authorized:
A.D. Police, "The Ripper", 12 tracks. Maison Ikkoku "Extra Tracks Vol. 1", 17 tracks. Maison Ikkoku "Extra Tracks Vol. 2", 17 tracks.
All three are out of print. I scoured the Internet, and local shops, looking for these items. The copyright holders are Japanese companies, which have not seen fit to reprint them, that I can tell. I am not looking as hard for them as I was; but, when I find the CDs, I will buy them.
All other copyrighted songs I have downloaded from the Internet are paid for. I don't mean I have downloaded copies of CDs I already own; I rip those. I utilized an offer by a company to download 99 tunes free, in a thirty-day trial period, and exercised my privilege to cancel the service before the first bill was due. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |  NormanSPremium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA kudos:4 Reviews:
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1 edit | reply to funchords said by funchords:But you don't let that fact keep you from running AV software, do you? I don't run without AV, but I do run without PG. I am not downloading anything covered by RIAA/MPAA copyrights, anyway. What I do download is in an interesting "grey area". Techinically, a violation of copyright law; fansubbed anime has not been heavily policed by the Japanese copyright holders. Most fansubbers immediately honor takedown notices. While some titles are licensed for U.S. distribution almost right out of the gate, many take years of negotiating to acquire U.S. licensing rights.
Personally, if a show is licensed for U.S. distribution, I won't touch it. Rather, I will apply the $25 a month, or so, I save by using slow, cheap DSL over speedy, expensive cable HSI toward the purchase of the better shows from the likes of, "The Right Stuf International". -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | said by NormanS:I don't run without AV, but I do run without PG. I am not downloading anything covered by RIAA/MPAA copyrights, anyway. Me neither -- so try my suggestion. Running PG, turn on logging of denied connections, and you'll see what I'm talking about. The MPAA/RIAA (embodied by anti-p2p "services") affect the innocent in a big way. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More fun, more features, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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| said by funchords:Me neither -- so try my suggestion. Running PG, turn on logging of denied connections, and you'll see what I'm talking about. The MPAA/RIAA (embodied by anti-p2p "services") affect the innocent in a big way. So how would I know that what is showing up in the logs are actually "bad" IP addresses? And how would running yet another application (using more of my resources) offset whatever ill effects of MPAA/RIAA would have on my connection? -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | | |
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