Sigh... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20963507 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:54:01 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:54:01 EDT Re: Rhapsody & last.FM seem to be doing OK http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966917 robbin :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

I guess it depends on how you monetize your product. Rhapsody sells subscriptions and doesn't just depend on ads....
Pandora makes advertising money only from spots placed on its Web page, not on audio ads that run between songs.
Sounds like you don't listen to or support Pandora. They also have a subscription service which is ad free -- the cost last time I paid was $36 per year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966917 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:14:50 EDT Re: Rhapsody & last.FM seem to be doing OK http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966409 kamm :
said by bear73 See Profile :

why can internet radio not operate under the same regs as public radio? or a non-profit/not for profit model? would that not reduce/eliminate the bribs tey have to pay?
Becuse it threatens the Clear Channel and alike's monopoly, the douche channels and their fixed income.

RIAA is a Potemkin-facade of the same Five Families of Media, it's their extortion team.

Again, it's time to bring a RICO case against all these studios - all we need is ONE LEAK who provides the emails etc and they are gone, for good, forever.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966409 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:59:57 EDT Re: Rhapsody & last.FM seem to be doing OK http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966347 kamm : SO in other words if they belong to a giant douche corp like CBS then it's fine?

Geez, it's soo laughable as you brake the neck of basic logic in order to defend this current corporate-plutocracy, headed for the XIX century ultra-right-wing market-mob situation...
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From the Washington Post story:
SoundExchange officials argue that because different media have different profit margins, it is appropriate to set different royalty rates.

Moreover, they complain, Internet radio stations have done too little to make money from playing their songs.

Pandora makes advertising money only from spots placed on its Web page, not on audio ads that run between songs.
And »www.last.fm which is owned by CBS and offers free music also is doing OK. The problem with some internet radio offerings may be the companies that don't have a legitimate business plan. They have plans that were based on getting the music for free or for almost free. Why should the RIAA support them and take money from companies that are paying the requested fees to the RIAA.
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If these greedy SOB's are allowed to get away with sucking 70% and shutting these services down then they'll get nothing. Hmmm....70% of of nothing is?????
Thanks to Pandora, etc. I actually got some CD's of bands I would have never done otherwise. I guess these bozo's in the *IAA just will never get it.
ARE YOU LISTENING YOU BUNCH OF $&^KERS. There, better now!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20963709 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:27:14 EDT Re: Sigh... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20963637 a333 : Agreed, this really sucks big time for the webcasters. The more that this kind of $hit goes down, the closer I get to boycotting the MAFIAA's CD's/DVD's. This organization is seriously getting out of control, and will, in time, bear the fruits of its greed....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20963637 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:10:24 EDT Sigh... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20963507 Redlight : 70% of their money on royalties is ridiculous. I hate to see Pandora go down as I really enjoy their service. The same goes for DI, Shoutcast and other webstations.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20963507 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:29:06 EDT