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NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
·Comcast

Cablecos should be

able to do whatever they want to do with there traffic. If they say that they need to throttle hsi services for network management reasons who's to say they cant. Is there a law that says they cant do it? No there isnt so instead of complaining might as well deal with it...

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

said by NOZIREV See Profile :

able to do whatever they want to do with there traffic. If they say that they need to throttle hsi services for network management reasons who's to say they cant. Is there a law that says they cant do it? No there isnt so instead of complaining might as well deal with it...
Sure, and the phone company should be able to charge you for phone service, then disconnect any calls they feel like.


NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
unfortunately internet is a luxury and phone is a necessity so they are two totally different things.


SillyRabbit

@tds.net

said by NOZIREV See Profile :

unfortunately internet is a luxury and phone is a necessity so they are two totally different things.
Not in my world. I use the internet to pay bills. I hardly ever use a phone. I say both are luxuries.. k?

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO
reply to NOZIREV
How is the phone any more of a necessity than the internet? If I get down to the point where I have to choose one, it will probably be the internet that I keep.


NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
reply to SillyRabbit
Nope its not K, i will have to definitely disagree. Thanks and have a great day, k?


NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
·Comcast

reply to Lazlow
that might be so but the home phone is considered a necessity and internet is not. When someone is breaking into your house and you dont have a phone to call the police are you gonna log into your computer to send an email to your local police dept.? i can already see your reply i have skype or voip or vonage and that is considered a home phone.


Maynard G Krebs

@teksavvy.com

reply to NOZIREV
said by NOZIREV See Profile :

unfortunately internet is a luxury and phone is a necessity so they are two totally different things.
I can do 100% of what I want with an internet connection only - email, surf, Skype. So internet access is necessity for me, not necessarily traditional phone service.

And it isn't the cableco's traffic anyway - it's MY traffic they are censoring or otherwise interfering with.

What are you going to say when the IP-based world and the traditional POTS world reaches the tipping point and the telco's want to do away with POTS? Are you still going to take the view that the telco's can F!ck with your packets? I don't think so.


NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
they can do away with POTS if they want but it has to be done with plenty of notice as far as packets go the cablecos can do what they want with you and you will deal with it ...

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

reply to NOZIREV
First, people breaking into my house when I am home are in for a rude surprise. Second, the response time of most police departments makes calling the cops a formality, by the time they arrive the criminals are usually gone. People lived and many continue to live, without a phone. It is no more a necessity than the internet. What was the last five phone calls you made that could not have been handled over the internet? For me I cannot think of one. Now, what did you do on the internet today? Could you do it with a phone? For me there is very little I do (daily) on the internet that could be done on a phone. If one(either one) can be called a necessity then they both are.


NOZIREV

join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA
you make good points sir but i am still not buying it. the phone is the best invention since the pocket puss*.

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

I am not saying the the phone was not an important thing. It WAS a great invention(or series of). By the same token, the covered wagon WAS a great invention (or series of). A lot of current business meeting are being done virtually. When humans communicate there are tons of subtext being carried non verbally. Once we get past the current (I believe artificial) bandwidth limitations video phones (internet based) will see a resurgence. Will they become common place this time? Who knows.

Back to your point. With the recent nationwide failures of 911 call centers, maybe changing police and fire over to internet based would not be a bad idea. Do an immediate back trace on the location, verify it with the "caller", access threat level, and assign nearest appropriate response, all automated or quasi automated. Even with the inevitable failures during development, it would have to be better than being put on hold for 911.


NOZIREV2

join:2008-08-20
West Dennis, MA
reply to NOZIREV
I don't know if anyone cares, but I just saved a boat load of money on my car insurance by switching to AFLACK!

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to NOZIREV
In your opinion, but the phone is not a necessity of life any more then trash collection, electricity, or any other service.

Sure it provides convenience and is good to have, but you certainly do not need it to function in this world.

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
reply to NOZIREV
It's not a matter of what's a necessity and what's not. It's a matter of charging for service and then deliberately failing to provide it.
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