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Black Moon

join:2005-02-01
Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to Guspaz
Re: [Rant] Torrents? ..Who needs them..

said by Guspaz See Profile :

Usenet costs money, torrents are free.
Usenet has poor selection, torrents have far more available content, including much that is not and will never be on usenet.

There's no comparison. Free and greater selection versus expensive and limited selection.

I also generally do not have problems with fake or spam torrents.
I second this, minus Guspaz's love for private trackers (which basically go against the filesharing principle even though they claim they don't).

I don't have much experience with usenet. Tried it some years ago, found it difficult to set up and find content (someone know a good guide on setting this up in Ubuntu?) and I don't like paying a monthly $10/mo for some 10 GB or so of content.

Ikarasu

join:2004-01-09
Port Coquitlam, BC
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You use ubuntu and have trouble with newsgroups? :P If your willing to take the plunge and go linux, I'd say newsgroups will be a breeze for you.

I only toy around in linux, dont use it on any of my main comps, so not sure which are good newsgroup programs. Find one that does nzbs, then goto some free nzb site. Then it works like torrents... you search for what you want, dl the nzb, hit open, and it should work.

Better yet... find one that has a built in supersearch function, and it dumbs down newsgroups so theyre easier then P2P like Kazaa/Limewire/Naspter.

Theres also a pretty good $12 a month provider, ngroups.net, unlimited downloads and really cheap. Maxes out my Internet connection too.

Black Moon

join:2005-02-01
Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by Ikarasu See Profile :

You use ubuntu and have trouble with newsgroups? :P If your willing to take the plunge and go linux, I'd say newsgroups will be a breeze for you.
Well, I have been using Linux since 99 at work, but always had Windows at home because of games. Now that I can run most games in Linux as well as the latter constantly improving, I made the switch to Linux last year. I'm as happy as a pig in shit. I could never go back to Windows. My wife feels the same way (and she's not very computer savvy).

As for newsgroups, as I said, I just have not given it a try for many years. If anyone knows good, free newsgroups that don't impose too small caps, I'm sure I could be tempted.

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I only toy around in linux, dont use it on any of my main comps, so not sure which are good newsgroup programs. Find one that does nzbs, then goto some free nzb site. Then it works like torrents... you search for what you want, dl the nzb, hit open, and it should work.
NZBs?

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Better yet... find one that has a built in supersearch function, and it dumbs down newsgroups so theyre easier then P2P like Kazaa/Limewire/Naspter.
Will have a look soon.

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Theres also a pretty good $12 a month provider, ngroups.net, unlimited downloads and really cheap. Maxes out my Internet connection too.
America only, or also from Europe? I'll be moving to France in two weeks.


Stewy
Premium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON

said by Black Moon See Profile :

If anyone knows good, free newsgroups
A "good" and "free" binary newsgroup doesn't exist, if you want something decent you'll need a provider.
--
It's all... part of the plan.

Black Moon

join:2005-02-01
Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by Stewy See Profile :

A "good" and "free" binary newsgroup doesn't exist, if you want something decent you'll need a provider.
Alright, how about one that is free? Speed is less important to me than money, though I am open to suggestions for paid newsgroups with good content.

Then again, almost all my needs are either satisfied by torrents or eMule. Unless someone can find Quincy Jones' 'Basie & Beyond' as FLAC or APE on newsgroups - and a few other rarities - I don't think I'd need to bother.

Ikarasu

join:2004-01-09
Port Coquitlam, BC
·ITalkBB
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Teksavvy (Presuming your still on them) Provides free binary newsgroups if you pay $4 a month for a static IP. It's limited at 1.5M though I believe.

Flacs are one thing I miss about torrents tbh. They don't have flacs... but nowheres near as much as Oink did. I hear waffles has a lot... but sadly it's private, and since I got out of the BT scene... not very easy to find someone with invites. You might have better luck though...and I imagine they'd have it in flac :P

Black Moon

join:2005-02-01
Scarborough, ON
I really despise private bittorrent trackers for a host of reasons, so I won't be searching around for invites to any of them.

I'll see about newsgroups once I'm in France, because signing up now is useless. Thanks for your help.

elwoodblues
Elwood Blues

join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON

reply to Black Moon

said by Black Moon See Profile :

I don't have much experience with usenet. Tried it some years ago, found it difficult to set up and find content (someone know a good guide on setting this up in Ubuntu?) and I don't like paying a monthly $10/mo for some 10 GB or so of content.
Huh? I pay Usenetserver 13/month unlimited???

cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC

said by elwoodblues See Profile :

said by Black Moon See Profile :

I don't have much experience with usenet. Tried it some years ago, found it difficult to set up and find content (someone know a good guide on setting this up in Ubuntu?) and I don't like paying a monthly $10/mo for some 10 GB or so of content.
Huh? I pay Usenetserver 13/month unlimited???
I pay Astraweb 11/month unlimited.

elwoodblues
Elwood Blues

join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON


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said by cbp See Profile :

said by elwoodblues See Profile :

said by Black Moon See Profile :

I don't have much experience with usenet. Tried it some years ago, found it difficult to set up and find content (someone know a good guide on setting this up in Ubuntu?) and I don't like paying a monthly $10/mo for some 10 GB or so of content.
Huh? I pay Usenetserver 13/month unlimited???
I pay Astraweb 11/month unlimited.
While I can't speak for Astraweb today, I did use them sometime ago.

In my experience no evening/weekend support.
poor retention

Just a bad experience overall.
Oh and your 11/month is at 1mbit speed, a total waste of time.

cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC


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said by elwoodblues See Profile :

While I can't speak for Astraweb today, I did use them sometime ago.

In my experience no evening/weekend support.
poor retention

Just a bad experience overall.
Oh and your 11/month is at 1mbit speed, a total waste of time.
Trying support right now. Let us hope that it works ok.

Retention wise I got a 90+ day old file. Didn't need anything older.
It is Unlimited DSL which has no speed limit (a special). It maxes out my 7Mbps connection.

Phorkster
Premium
join:2004-06-27
Windsor, ON
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reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues See Profile :

While I can't speak for Astraweb today, I did use them sometime ago.

In my experience no evening/weekend support.
poor retention

Just a bad experience overall.
Oh and your 11/month is at 1mbit speed, a total waste of time.
I get 1MB/s +. I max my connection.
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