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ptrowski
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said by Rick:

I think it all has plenty to do with each other.

Isp's including comcast have tried to police their networks in such a way the last few years to be as reasonable as possible IMHO. Instead of putting fixed numbers on bandwidth, they've attempted to be as flexible as possible and to deal with those abusing the networks with cautions to tone down their usage.

I've always thought that was a great way to operate and really resembled in a way the spirit of the internet itself in letting it be as free and open as possible.
In particular, I think that comcast has been one of the most generous ones of all. I have yet to EVER see a post where anyone ever had a problem unless they hit the 300 to 400 gig amounts PER MONTH. And, even that was following a warning letter.

It's really too bad that some couldn't appreciate that and how generous it was. Instead..they criticized and criticized some more.

And now..I think they're going to reap what they've sown.
Not only with comcast..but across the whole ISP world.

Some people have simply treated this 42 dollar a month service as if they paid 2 thousand a month for it.
Their expectations and demands have been nothing short of outrageous. It's a residential service..not a private dedicated line for all their own use.

Maybe now they'll start to get a clue.

But..then again..maybe it will take the first big bill instead.
So, you are for the caps to limit the bandwidth hogs, and the stated caps are now most likely a direct result of what Rob found. So I would imagine you would be one of Rob's #1 fans as he has now helped limit the bandwidth hogs you have been so vocal about....
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I have never been in favor of caps. Instead, I have often written in the Comcast and other forums about people trying to be reasonable and responsible instead. If I was someone who wanted to consume 400 gigs of bandwidth per month, I simply wouldn't expect it from a 42 dollars a month residential isp service. At the very least..I'd upgrade to a business class type of service and perhaps split my usage across a dsl and cable connection. In short..I'd respect both my neighbors and the company I'm getting service from.

Some simply haven't done that. They've treated this like an all you can eat 6.99 chinese buffet that they go in and attach a chain to their pickup truck with and drag it home.
And do it under the guise of "they said it was all I can eat".

This is what I mean about being reasonable and responsible.

As for Rob and his suit..that's up to him if he feels wronged. Personally I'd have to severely question however how wronged someone could be obviously using the connection as much as he did..at the price he paid for it.
I saw in the news he was asked how much he felt he was due and his response was "the answer was tremendously difficult".
To me..the answer seems pretty simple.
Zero.

But...that's really here nor there. This is America..and if a person would like to waste their time on a frivolous suit..feel free to I guess. My point wasn't that..it was the "undisclosure" in response to his own post above where he talks about Comcast doing that.

Did he contribute to what is occurring with caps now?
Probably. In some ways...I think the answer is yes. But it's far from being just him. It's collectively "they"..who I feel never seemed to appreciate what they had for the price they had it.

Isp's really are going to have no choice but to cap if reasonable network management practices..ie: throttling..aren't allowed.

And, I don't think it's going to hurt me or the average user at all..unless the numbers get so low as to be in the range Time Warner is talking about. Being a former RR customer..I certainly hope that doesn't come to pass. But I think who they can thank for it is the ones who simply could never get enough.

They are driving the industry to this.
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said by Rick:

As for Rob and his suit..that's up to him if he feels wronged. Personally I'd have to severely question however how wronged someone could be obviously using the connection as much as he did..at the price he paid for it.
Rick, my average use falls around 150 GB a month, and I'm also hyper conscience about ensuring that any use that I'm about to do and I won't contribute to the neighborhood's congestion.

During tests with Seth Shoen at the EFF, even when I was transferring at data rates limited to 1 KB/s, I was receiving the RSTs. Comcast was keeping me from accessing bandwidth that I paid for.

Quit throwing bombs at me.
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