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Re: [Speed] Comcast to throttle individual users; all protocols
said by funchords  :This Topic is supposed to be about throttling Except according to all of the documentation on the Comcast site they are not throttling, but rather reprioritizing traffic.
I think it's an important distinction to make -- this should only be a factor during times of congestion, and this only influences who gets the better deal for packet priority during those times. If you're a heavy network user and your traffic gets marked into the "best effort" queue -- if the network is really otherwise idle then there is no impact to the delivery of your packets. |
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Well it's not easy to totally isolate the two issues (throttle/cap).
Look at a user who may do no more than 15GB a month. And then another user who does ~200GB a month.
Given the current explanation of throttling, the light user of the 15GB monthly usage, could theoretically have their connected choked and throttled way more often than the 200GB user. And to complicate matters even more, does this mean that a user on a node that is very underutilized will get a totally different internet experience than the 15GB a month throttled bursty bandwidth user?
And finally, why not (with this introduction) simply start selling 30/5 connections on the 1.x networks. Obviously comcast is now ready and geared up to not give consistent service across the speeds they advertise, so why stop with 16/2?
New marketing campaign, Comcast offers *fastest internet ever!! New 30/5 connection *disclaimer... speeds may vary, we reserve the right to throttle the connection to speeds and service levels we did not advertise.
I'm not exactly saying comcast can't or shouldn't do something, but something is not right here. |
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i DL probably 100GB and UL around 50GB a month, would i be affected?
their vague language is dubious... |
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| said by Somnambul33t :i DL probably 100GB and UL around 50GB a month, would i be affected? their vague language is dubious... You wouldn't hit the declared cap and be kicked off the system as a customer. But you could still be affected by their other policy - temporary de-prioritization of your traffic if you are hogging a node for some measured period of time.
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said by funchords :This Topic is supposed to be about throttling, and we're trying to support Sorto's request to -- well -- keep them sorted.  Of course, I could always close this one.
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Somnambul33t :i DL probably 100GB and UL around 50GB a month, would i be affected? their vague language is dubious... You wouldn't hit the declared cap and be kicked off the system as a customer. But you could still be affected by their other policy - temporary de-prioritization of your traffic if you are hogging a node for some measured period of time. TK is right. The 100GB DL won't be affected. It will only apply to the upload.
The good news is that good practices (which you should practice anyway) should avoid the throttling (or reprioritization, which is a technically more accurate term). For whatever heavy uploading long-term that you do, lighten up on uploading during prime time -- which you should do anyway on Cable, and avoid uploading full-throttle the rest of the day. I would keep extended-length uploading under 24 KB/s and during prime time, maybe half that. This only applies to the heavy-duty uploads (background acts like file-sharing, uploading long video to sites, or backing up files). Doing this will also give you a better surfing and game-playing experience.
It sure would be nicer if they just told users that, but there is just too much money in pretending that they're as good as FIOS or DSL on the upload side. They're good enough for some things, but not for extended-length uploading.
said by delusion FTL :
but something is not right here.
Yep.
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said by espaeth :said by funchords :This Topic is supposed to be about throttling Except according to all of the documentation on the Comcast site they are not throttling, but rather reprioritizing traffic. I think it's an important distinction to make -- this should only be a factor during times of congestion, and this only influences who gets the better deal for packet priority during those times. If you're a heavy network user and your traffic gets marked into the "best effort" queue -- if the network is really otherwise idle then there is no impact to the delivery of your packets. That is correct, and thanks for making this very important point.
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