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NY Tel
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Re: Not Sprint, no sir!

said by B:

Okay, I'm confused.

You can't mean that the femtocells will accept cellular traffic from just anybody? You mean they're not limited to registered phones of household members, but rather actually act as a cell tower to the general public?

Using up the homeowner's "private" broadband Internet bandwidth??You have to register your SIM or ESN or phone number in order for it to work on the femtocell otherwise I would talk my neighbors into getting one.......

That can never fly in densely populated areas.

I was really high on the idea of femtocells until I read this. What's the story?

-- B
You have to register your cell/SIM/ESN/IMEI or what ever identifier for it to work.

Otherwise I would be convincing my neighbors that they needed it.

B
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Oh good. Thanks.

So then isn't "Sprint, however, seems to be defying industry expectations for the service, charging customers both for the femtocell and the service, effectively asking subscribers to subsidize the cost of expanding network coverage." a big fat load of hooey?

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wifi4milez
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said by B:

Oh good. Thanks.

So then isn't "Sprint, however, seems to be defying industry expectations for the service, charging customers both for the femtocell and the service, effectively asking subscribers to subsidize the cost of expanding network coverage." a big fat load of hooey?

-- B
Yup! Thats whats so humorous about the whole situation. As
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wifi4milez
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reply to NY Tel

said by NY Tel:

said by B:

Okay, I'm confused.

You can't mean that the femtocells will accept cellular traffic from just anybody? You mean they're not limited to registered phones of household members, but rather actually act as a cell tower to the general public?

Using up the homeowner's "private" broadband Internet bandwidth??You have to register your SIM or ESN or phone number in order for it to work on the femtocell otherwise I would talk my neighbors into getting one.......

That can never fly in densely populated areas.

I was really high on the idea of femtocells until I read this. What's the story?

-- B
You have to register your cell/SIM/ESN/IMEI or what ever identifier for it to work.

Otherwise I would be convincing my neighbors that they needed it.
Actually no! Out of the box the device will work with any Sprint device that comes into its range. You need to specifically limit it to certain phones, otherwise its basically wide open!

said by Sprint Airave User Guide Page 10 :
To prevent unauthorized users from accessing the base
station and diminishing your available bandwidth, the base
station can be secured to allow only a small pool of phones to
use it.
»www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pdfs/···e_ug.pdf
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You have the OPTION to secure the device. The unit itself supports up to three calls at the same time. If you login into your Sprint account, you can add phones which are allowed to use your Airave device. All others will be denied. I do not live in a very populated area so I do not bother to lock mine down. One problem though is, if you lock the device down, for only a couple of phones and someone else comes wondering along and tries to use there own Sprint phone, they are denied the ability to make a call and will receive a message on there phone that they are on a restricted network and to move away from it. This is a huge problem for those in an urban area or apartment building since you effectively have a "legal" cell phone jammer. Lets hope a firmware update in the future fixes this.
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B
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Well that sounds like a mess in the making. The handsets won't simply roam to the available, weaker signal from the regular tower?

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said by swintec:

....... One problem though is, if you lock the device down, for only a couple of phones and someone else comes wondering along and tries to use there own Sprint phone, they are denied the ability to make a call and will receive a message on there phone that they are on a restricted network and to move away from it. This is a huge problem for those in an urban area or apartment building since you effectively have a "legal" cell phone jammer. Lets hope a firmware update in the future fixes this.
That is a major flaw. See that's because they probably write lousy Methods & Procedures for their services.

Bad product Development. Really.


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said by wifi4milez:

Actually no! Out of the box the device will work with any Sprint device that comes into its range. You need to specifically limit it to certain phones, otherwise its basically wide open!
Lovely. So, just like wireless access point, wide-open, not secure by default is now going to be affecting cell phones. You would think that device security, especially on a pay service, would be a high priority. Sprint better make the instructions and warnings about the security settings prominent and clear for the average customer.
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said by NetAdmin1:

said by wifi4milez:

Actually no! Out of the box the device will work with any Sprint device that comes into its range. You need to specifically limit it to certain phones, otherwise its basically wide open!
Lovely. So, just like wireless access point, wide-open, not secure by default is now going to be affecting cell phones. You would think that device security, especially on a pay service, would be a high priority. Sprint better make the instructions and warnings about the security settings prominent and clear for the average customer.
Any minutes used while on the device, by a stranger or not...would come out of the individual subscribers minutes and not the owner of the Airave device. The most the owner is losing is a bit of bandwidth...although if there connection is metered or they have caps...this could be a problem.
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said by swintec:

Any minutes used while on the device, by a stranger or not...would come out of the individual subscribers minutes and not the owner of the Airave device. The most the owner is losing is a bit of bandwidth...although if there connection is metered or they have caps...this could be a problem.
Because the device only accepts a finite number of devices, I think it is three, if you are in a heavily populated area, like a city or suburb, and your femtocell is wide open, people in your area can conceivable connect to your device and prevent you from connecting. Think of it as an unintended DoS.
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