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Re: EFF launches a worthless costly lawsuit .... said by Lazlow:All those things(and many more) are a PITA, BUT they are also what makes our system so great. You missed the point. The had taxation with representation, and prohibitions on quartering soldiers *before* the Federal Constitution of 1789. They had these things under their state constitutions, and the Articles of Confederation.
The point is, they *ditched* the relatively "small government" Articles of Confederation after just 12 years, in favor of a *vastly* more powerful and intrusive form of government (the new, Federal constitution). It contained things like "reasonable" searches and seizures by this new, expanded government (which didn't exist under the Articles). Things like suspension of habeus corpus, which didn't exist under the Articles. Things like "takings with just compensation" which didn't exist under the Articles.
When considering the "intent of the Founders," one can't ignore that they intended to *escape* a relatively limited government for a *vastly* more powerful one, because it was more "efficient."
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Brooklyn, NY | reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Austinloop:Billions and Trillions of US Citizens....deported to club gitmo or has otherwise made to disappear? Got any links for the billions and trillions of US citizens. I thought that the US population was roughly 301 million, as of June 2007. He was being sarcastic (see the  ). Just funning the left wing wackos that blame all problems known to mankind since time began on the Bush administration. At least they are funny - you, ultr-right-wing clueless wackos are downright scary.
Thanks God you and your entourage will be out of power for long-long time. 
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Brooklyn, NY | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:said by Austinloop:Got any links for the billions and trillions of US citizens. I thought that the US population was roughly 301 million, as of June 2007. You can find them in last month's issue of the New Yorker. Hah, do you really expect clueless mouthpieces to care about facts? 
I have yet to see any right-wing nutcase to read anything other than their own BS propaganda and watch other than FauxNews - unlike me who's quite the opposite of them yet I read and watch right-wing sources regularly (sans the low-level mobster crap like FoxNoise or OnDrugeReport... )
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Strange, from your posts you appear to be a small government conservative, but your posts seems to advocate positions that are contrary to that ideology, in this case, larger and more intrusive government. Odd.
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Re: EFF launches a worthless costly lawsuit .... said by NetAdmin1:Strange, from your posts you appear to be a small government conservative, but your posts seems to advocate positions that are contrary to that ideology, in this case, larger and more intrusive government. Odd. Anyone who says they're for small government is a liar. It really boils down to *how* government will be used. Who's ox will be gored, etc.
Sometimes people (libertarians) try to pretend they're different, and advocate non-government solutions. But, if you objectively delve into it, they're just as attached to a teet as everyone else they complain about.
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Brooklyn, NY | reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Lazlow:keyboard You do realize that what you just said goes against almost every principle this country was founded on? Innocent until proven guiltily{Sic} being the most obvious. Innocent until proven guilty is NOT the same as above suspicion. Anyone can be suspected of something and nothing in the constitution prevents that. It's exactly of that - based on a "suspicion" you limit his freedom. THat is illegal.
Man, I sooo hate uneducated yet loud clueless right-wing mouthpieces.
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Re: EFF launches a worthless costly lawsuit .... said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Lazlow:keyboard You do realize that what you just said goes against almost every principle this country was founded on? Innocent until proven guiltily{Sic} being the most obvious. Innocent until proven guilty is NOT the same as above suspicion. Anyone can be suspected of something and nothing in the constitution prevents that. You don't look like you belong in this area. Gimme your ID.
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join:2002-04-12 | reply to keyboard5684
said by keyboard5684:So lets recap... He pilots aircrafts, is married NOW to a women from Pakistan (now a US citizen not sure how), she is Muslim and he is a Muslim CONVERT.... I am a guy who lives in rural America, flies regularly, has had our family checked via DOD (if someone in your family gets DOD clearance they check you all out) and am Episcopalian. That is why he is on the list and I am not. Sorry, but that is the way it needs to work right now, someday it will change but until Muslims stop blowing themselves up to gain martyrdom to take Americans out, this is how it is. That's pretty good reasoning. Let's also apply this sort of profiling to white christian fundamentalists and block their access to medical services so they cannot perform acts of terrorism such as blowing away doctors, nurses etc. who have been involved in providing abortion services.
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| said by hpguru:said by keyboard5684:So lets recap... He pilots aircrafts, is married NOW to a women from Pakistan (now a US citizen not sure how), she is Muslim and he is a Muslim CONVERT.... I am a guy who lives in rural America, flies regularly, has had our family checked via DOD (if someone in your family gets DOD clearance they check you all out) and am Episcopalian. That is why he is on the list and I am not. Sorry, but that is the way it needs to work right now, someday it will change but until Muslims stop blowing themselves up to gain martyrdom to take Americans out, this is how it is. That's pretty good reasoning. Let's also apply this sort of profiling to white christian fundamentalists and block their access to medical services so they cannot perform acts of terrorism such as blowing away doctors, nurses etc. who have been involved in providing abortion services. Lets look at your logic. Blowing away doctors by Christian fundamentalists (say about 3 in the last 20 yrs). Muslim fundamentalists (say about 10,000 in the last year). Obviously, the Christian fundamentalists are a far greater danger and should be watched more closely than muslim fundamentalists. {/sarcasm}.
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hpguruCurb Your DogmaPremium
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1 edit | said by fAcEtIOUs:Lets look at your logic. Blowing away doctors by Christian fundamentalists (say about 3 in the last 20 yrs). Muslim fundamentalists (say about 10,000 in the last year). Obviously, the Christian fundamentalists are a far greater danger and should be watched more closely than muslim fundamentalists. {/sarcasm}. I didn't say christians were a greater terrorist risk. They aren't (unless you take the entire history of Christendom into account). The risk is greater than you suggest however. Doctors and medical support staff and facilities are simply too valuable an asset to ignore this risk no matter how small, especially when there are millions of hate-sopped christians in this country constantly railing belligerently against abortionists and other people they despise. Every religious fundamentalist regardless of religion has the capacity to commit acts of terrorism in response to ill-perceived grievances. These are delusional people after all. National security and Justice demands we profile them all without exception. If you are a fundamentalist christian, that includes you. Now that is change I can believe in. 
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to kamm
said by kamm:Hah, do you really expect clueless mouthpieces to care about facts? I have yet to see any right-wing nutcase to read anything other than their own BS propaganda and watch other than FauxNews - unlike me who's quite the opposite of them yet I read and watch right-wing sources regularly (sans the low-level mobster crap like FoxNoise or OnDrugeReport... ) Exactly. So hopefully the things I mentioned in my first post will come to fruition soon. That Evil Bush Regime is responsible for every evil thing that has happened since the Big Bang.
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to hpguru
said by hpguru:National security and Justice demands we profile them all without exception. If you are a fundamentalist christian, that includes you. Now that is change I can believe in. Most so-called atheists lack the courage to say that about Muslims. After all, they fight back.
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hpguruCurb Your DogmaPremium
join:2002-04-12 | said by pnh102:Most so-called atheists lack the courage to say that about Muslims. After all, they fight back. I did say that about muslims. My comment wasn't limited to fundamentalist christians.
said by hpguru:Every religious fundamentalist regardless of religion has the capacity to commit acts of terrorism in response to ill-perceived grievances. These are delusional people after all. National security and Justice demands we profile them all without exception.
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