| Lost drivers license should I be worried bout identity theft I lost my drivers license. Can a drivers license number be used to commit identity theft without my SSN or mothers maiden name? Should I be worried? What is the most damage that could be done with just a drivers license? |
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Should I be worried? What is the most damage that could be done with just a drivers license?
Someone who's body size and shape is similar to yours could rob a liquor store, kill the clerk, and accidentally drop your driver's license on the floor of the establishment?
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Besides having your driver's license number they also have your home address.
You did contact the DMV and tell them you lost your license didn't you? |
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| reply to BorgKK
Thanks for the replies
@Netfixer...with all due respect the odds of that happening and me getting arrested for are rather remote and not exactly a big concern of mine.
@ Littleem129...Yes I contacted the DMV and will get getting a replacement card but they wont be changing the license number. So basically they wont be able to scan the lost license anymore but they will have the license number.
A home address is not exactly private anyways. In today's day and age you can find out somebody's address and picture of their house rather easily on the internet. So I feel that all I really lost is my driver license number.
What can somebody do with just the license number? |
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 DownTheShoreTag, you're itPremium
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Since it's got your name, address and date of birth on it, someone can do a full background search on you and get a hell of a lot more of your identifying information.
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What does Background Information include?
Background reports include a criminal and sex offender check, lawsuits, judgments, liens, bankruptcies, home value & property ownership, address history, phone numbers, relatives & associates, neighbors, marriage/divorce records and more
Here's a sample background report that shows what can be obtained: »www.intelius.com/search-detail-o···rtType=8
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most people are not criminals. Most likely no one will ever find it that would attempt to steal your identity. Criminals of this sort are really in the minority, thankfully. Unless you have some inside information about this sort of crime being very high in your area? |
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DownTheShoreTag, you're itPremium
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2 edits | If he/she is in a metro area, then there is definitely need to worry. There is a large market for ID documents. That document is worth money on the street, and can be used as ID in situations where ID is technically required by law but the interpretation it is very loose ("But Mr. Lawman, he had a valid driver's license!"). The information on it can also be used to create a false Social Security card (or to get a duplicate card if someone has the right illegal connections - SSA is very good at catching those connections, but it does happen occasionally  ).
Maybe nothing will happen and the license floated away down a storm sewer, but in today's world, you can't make that assumption.
What you should do is get a printout of your earnings from the Social Security administration for at least the next three years, to make sure that the earnings showing up on your record belong to you. Also get a yearly credit report for at least the same time frame to make sure that everything on it belongs only to you. Reporting the loss to the DMV should cover you legally.
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| reply to BorgKK
When you contact the DMV all you will get is a replacement driver license. They will not void it or give you a different #. No fraud warning at the DMV, no nothing. Does not matter if it is lost or stolen. As important as the DL is, they are behind the times in security and do not care. |
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DownTheShoreTag, you're itPremium
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kudos:11 | reply to BorgKK
Was it a picture license? |
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kudos:4 | reply to BorgKK
Does it have a url bar that contains your fingerprints? |
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| reply to DownTheShore
Thanks for the responses everybody. I looked at Intellus and all you need to run a background check is a person's name and address. Somebody doesn't need my license to get that information. Also the full background check requires the SSN which is not on the license.
@ Down the shore...you say that somebody can use your license to get a Social Security replacement card but a Drivers License AND passport is required to get a social security card. If somebody has the illegal connections to create a fake passport or fake SS card then you are pretty much screwed anyways since all the information on your license can be gotten rather easily. (except for the license number)
Can you lease a car just by showing a drivers license or buy any other high priced items by just showing your driver's license? |
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| reply to BorgKK
Also it was a picture license and I don't believe it has a url bar that contains fingerprints but I am not 100% sure. |
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kudos:1 | reply to BorgKK
Well, you aren't the first person that this has happened to, so I surely wouldn't panic. I guess it would also depend on how certain you are that you misplaced it, as opposed to having lost it in public or had it stolen.
I think that procedures vary from state to state (I'm not sure what state you're in), but I believe that in many, if the license is reported stolen (as opposed to simply lost) or if the number corresponds to your Soc. Security number, then they will change the number. I think that this typically requires that a police report be filed first.
A driver's license could be used in some states to cash a check or to rent a car. I'd imagine that they'd need a checkbook in your name to cash a check or some other ID for the car, but in a sense, they're halfway there if they have the license.
So besides contacting your DMV, I'd do some research at your local Governor's Office website and even give them a call to see what assistance or suggestions they can offer. They're probably more versed in identity theft issues than the DMV.
Ten years ago I wouldn't have given the issue much thought. But these days... |
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| reply to BorgKK
Yes you have to worry a little but with your name look what this program can do.!
»www.highprogrammer.com/cgi-bin/uniqueid/
Pick a state |
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 RXDOCYou want what?Premium,MVM
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Yes |
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kudos:1 | reply to WeenieBoy
So are you suggesting that we all input our names, state and date of birth on this page to see what this program can do? Gee, doesn't that sound like a great idea. If criminals don't have that information already, they certainly will after running this "test". |
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| reply to BorgKK
said by BorgKK :
Also it was a picture license and I don't believe it has a url bar that contains fingerprints but I am not 100% sure.
The picture ID driver's license is not necessarily that much protection. I know someone who to prove a point and win a bet laminated a picture of a walrus head onto his employee picture ID card. He was able to display that ID card and get past DoD and corporate security checks with nobody even blinking. Of course he did actually look something like a walrus, but nonetheless the walrus picture on his ID card was not his picture, so don't count on it to really be much of a security feature. 
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DownTheShoreTag, you're itPremium
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said by BorgKK :
Thanks for the responses everybody. I looked at Intellus and all you need to run a background check is a person's name and address. Somebody doesn't need my license to get that information. Also the full background check requires the SSN which is not on the license.
@ Down the shore...you say that somebody can use your license to get a Social Security replacement card but a Drivers License AND passport is required to get a social security card. If somebody has the illegal connections to create a fake passport or fake SS card then you are pretty much screwed anyways since all the information on your license can be gotten rather easily. (except for the license number)
Can you lease a car just by showing a drivers license or buy any other high priced items by just showing your driver's license?
I think the point is that the license might fall into the hands of someone who normally would not have TRIED to get your name and address via other means. With enough information, SSNs can be obtained - security is way too lax on some governmental and business sites. A driver's license number is one of those keys to aid in that.
My point re the SS cards was that a fraudulent one could be created using your name, and using the other information on the license, create a number that would pass a superficial check - it's a matter of knowing information about series issuance. And who's to say your license won't be sold to someone who has access to the means to duplicate your actual SSN number? I don't think that most people realize the amount of orgainzation that exists behind the production of fraudulent documents and the huge business it is. Or how much we are all dependent upon the integrity of the governmental workers who handle our personal information (speaking here an an ex-Fed).
The thing is, anyone's name and address can be obtained rather easily, but I thought the point here was that YOURS may have fallen into the wrong hands. 
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1) I failed to see where I suggested you enter anything valid or invalid . I was merely showing what ONE program can generate with given information.
2) How please tell have you detemined that this site is run by criminals ? I would like to learn |
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kudos:1 | said by WeenieBoy:1) I failed to see where I suggested you enter anything valid or invalid . I was merely showing what ONE program can generate with given information. Not all who visit this forum are experts and will think as you do. Some may try it, thinking that it has been "recommended" on a security forum by a security professional. "If it was dangerous, why would they have posted a link to it?" they might think. So I'd suggest that you not provide a link to anything that might cause someone less educated than you to do something stupid, without explicitly pointing out the risks that it might potentially pose.
In any case, it's rather obvious that the only way you could test is this program works, would be to input valid data and see if it comes up with your license number. And I fail to see on a unverified site, how that would be a good thing.
said by WeenieBoy: 2) How please tell have you detemined that this site is run by criminals ? I would like to learn Simple answer: How do you know that it isn't? So you assume that everything is to be distrusted until proven otherwise. I would not suggest providing links to something that YOU haven't verifed, unless you indicate that you have no idea if the site is legitimate or not.
Rather than educating, you might just be causing unsuspecting users to compromise their data in the guise of a "security test". |
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