ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: No....
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NOT a telco provider
Does comcast or any other cable co. have telephone customers ? Umm the answer is YES. Therefore, theyre a PROVIDER.. Just as AT&T and Verizon now provide TV. I really worry about your IQ sometimes hottboi.
Who cares if its internet based? Its telephone service. Does it sound any different ? No.. Oh wait, most cable co fanboys will tell you it sounds BETTER.
Dialtone is dialtone. Thats it. |
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TWTom
@rr.com
| First of all,There's Telco's and there are cable companies.Even when the Telco companies were still calling themselves Telco companies...Cable companies changed their names to MSO's why haven't the phone companies done that yet Italian? Quack,Quack!!! |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
1 edit | very true!
a cable company doesnt run around saying they're losing landline customers or DSL customers either.
They'll say they lost TV customers. NOT telephone customers.
They do not offer telephone either. they offer Digital Voice. 
Also remember there is a difference between HSI by Comcast and HSI by Qwest and every other phone company! Remember how must of everyone on here claims that DSL is better because its a dedicated "line" between you and the PHONE company's central office. Cable doesn't do that.
There is another difference for you. |
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Syncognition
join:2008-01-12
Winter Park, FL
| Then "telcos" don't provide telephone either. They actually provide analog voice. See, I can spin things, too.
If cable companies want to provide voice service, they should be taxed accordingly. They should also have to be regulated by the PUC in the same ways as well. If they insist their product should be a replacement for a utility, then they should have to follow the same regulations as a utility provider, not an entertainment provider.
And as long as cable companies advertise their service as Digital Phone/Voice/Person-to-person-residential-home-oral-communication and insist on being competitive with Analog Phone/Voice/Person-to-person-residential-home-oral-communication companies, they should have to pay the same taxes, if only for the sake of fair competition. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| You, VZ, ATT, Qwest and many states think that. Well guess what, the FCC has ruled that they can not be taxed as they are a VoIP product; Telephony.
You may want to read some of the FCC headlines regarding VoIP: »www.fcc.gov/voip/#Headlines
one is for ATT's product as well. Another is for Vonage. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | reply to TWTom
quote:
First of all,There's Telco's and there are cable companies.Even when the Telco companies were still calling themselves Telco companies...Cable companies changed their names to MSO's why haven't the phone companies done that yet Italian? Quack,Quack!!!
Usually when theres a first of all, theres a second of all... but anyway, Who cares what the companies are calling themselves?? That is completely and totally irrelevant !
The cable companies and telephone companies BOTH provide customers with phone service. There is no right reason in the world one should have an unfair price edge on the other.
This is simple common sense.. this shouldnt even be a discussion. |
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MadMANN
Premium
join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926  :Dialtone is dialtone. Thats it. Would you tax Vonage or any other third party VOIP the same, since dial tone is dial tone? |
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TWTOM
@rr.com
| reply to Syncognition
Well,that an arguement for Verizon,ATT and the phone companies, who dance around and lobby in Washington and for some reason don't have to abide to the same franchising laws and regulations as cable do.It's an optional thing when it comes to provider as well.I'm sure if that was the case,Verizon and Verizon wireless wouldn't actually be seperate companies.Then it would be Utility company trying to replace another utility company? But yet they are the same company? Cable companies can't help if they are more innovated than the Ma Bell's.Same as satellite not going by the same franchising standards,if so they wouldn't be able to be in every cities or badwoods. |
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cuda
@sbcglobal.net
| reply to hottboiinnc
"Digital Voice" Give me a damn break. Even POTS service is converted to digital at points during its transmission. And to put things in more perspective, Cable Cos phone service goes goes thru PHONE CABLES! Its only on the coax to the CO. Then the phone CO has to handle it and it is a REGULAR FRIGGIN CALL!.
TAX THOSE BASTARDS! |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to TWTom
Last time I checked it was Comcast Cable.. Not comcast MSO.. and it was Charter cable, not charter MSO.. maybe Time Warner MSO? ... um, nope.. it's Time Warner cable..
They didn't "change their names" to MSO's.. they ARE MSOs.. Multi Service Provider and Multi System Providers.. that IS what they are, however, they are still the "cable company".. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT | reply to MadMANN
If they dont drop the taxes & fee's on POTS?? YES
Any VoIP home or business phone service that can connect to POTS lines should be taxed the same way. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| you should tell your beloved Union to tell VZ and Comcast to drop the rates. After all its the Phone companies that are adding the "other taxes and fees".
Like i said above- Comcast, TWC, Charter, Insight, Bright House, Armstrong, CableOne, etc, do not have them. It's just a way for the phone companies to make more profit and then go to DC and say they need money out of the USF because they're not making enough money!
It's not the Cable company's fault they don't double dip. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to cuda
Why are you jealous that Cable customers pay less for phone? It's not our fault.
Tell your ATT that you want cheaper service and you dont' wanna be charged their "other taxes and fees" which aren't taxes and fees. |
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dave
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926 : This is simple common sense.. this shouldnt even be a discussion. The problem is that people insist on confusing 'common sense' and 'what I want'.
For what it's worth, I don't want to be paying fees to Comcast either. But I don't recall that being the question asked. |
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