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About as much as this one does...  It's just a different picture. |
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1 edit | reply to blueflat How about this? Does this break them? |
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| reply to SueS now try breaking all the rules... |
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| reply to blueflat Thank you! I spray painted the clouds using 3 different colors. I used the color picker on another photo.
Thanks for all your help! I did not think about putting something in the lower right hand corner till you mentioned it. Now the composition feels much better to me. |
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| reply to SueS nice clouds! how did you do that?
for more pop, try increasing contrast and sharpness, and saturation too (increased colors without increasing the black levels). opposite for less pop.
another trick is to use the density curve, and slam the bottom 5% of blacks(0-5%)all to pure black (0%)and the top 5% of whites (95-100%) all to pure 100% white.
expanding on what others have mentioned:
a photo can be an exact record or modified. keep the unaltered original in case anyone wants to see what the camera recorded, make a b version and work only on that.
you had some theme or purpose in mind when taking the photo, was it expressed in the photo?
it's your photo, make it do what you want.
and you also will be thinking of where the photo will be used. a contrasty impacty version is good for the entertainment room or a photo contest, while a bland soft muted version is better for over the quiet living room couch or for the background in an ad.
your choice. |
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1 edit | reply to SueS With all the help received I am posting another reworked version. I cannot get the pop that everyone else gets, but this is the best I can do. I think it is much better than my first try. Once again I'd like some input and suggestions. Thanks for helping! |
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2 edits | reply to SueS said by SueS :... shooting during the golden hour was to have the gold light in the photos. Do you shoot in the evening and remove the golden color cast, or just not shoot in the evening? I kind of like the golden colors, am I the only one? I like shooting in that light too, as evidenced by my Scavenger hunt straw bale photo ( »August Bike Ride ) Your original has a great warm afternoon feel, conveying the impending fall. My edits were just other interpretations of a very versatile picture that can evoke different responses. -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis |
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| reply to SueS said by SueS :I thought shooting during the golden hour was to have the gold light in the photos. Do you shoot in the evening and remove the golden color cast, or just not shoot in the evening? I kind of like the golden colors, am I the only one? I very much like the golden cast but it depends totally on the subject matter. I think it goes really nicely with the hue from tungsten lighting when the lights are just coming on at dusk in an urban landscape, for example. Sometimes I go all the way and set my white balance to completely compensate for the warmer light and only take advantage of the shadows and dimensionality that the lower angle of incidence of evening light brings to the composition.
Quick synopsis: you're not the only one. 
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  tmpchaos Requiescat in pace Premium,Mod join:2000-04-28 Hoboken, NJ clubs:    | reply to SueS The problem is typically that it gets exaggerated compared to what is really seen- so the trick I usually do is just to lessen it to bring a greater spectrum of color into the shot. |
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| reply to Pentaxian said by Pentaxian :Two things - What is the thread size of this lens and, does the front element rotate when focusing? Front does not rotate. Filter size is 67. Thank you! |
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  Jodokast96 R.I.P Bassman442 Premium join:2005-11-23 Erial, NJ | reply to SueS Like anything, it will vary by subject and shooter. The bigger reason, IMO, is not the color cast, but a more subdued light. |
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| reply to SueS Thanks, I like all the edits on my image, they have way more pop than I know how to do. Our trees are not the spring summer green color, with fall coming we already have lots of yellow in the trees.
I do have this question though. I thought shooting during the golden hour was to have the gold light in the photos. Do you shoot in the evening and remove the golden color cast, or just not shoot in the evening? I kind of like the golden colors, am I the only one?
I would like your thoughts on shooting during the golden hour.
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A little mucking about for you...  |
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| reply to EGeezer EGeezer, that second one was an eyeopener, since it's almost exactly what I ended up with when I tried my hand at this; I was just too shy to post . To my eye, the whole picture was way too yellow/brown, though I liked the composition a lot, so I went for quite a drastic color "correction". But when I didn't see anyone correcting it so drastically, I backed off .
SueS, I hope someday I can take "problem" photos as good as yours!  -- The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it. -- Stanley Kubrick |
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| reply to SueS This is one of those scenes that's near and dear to my heart, since I love flat-water canoeing and kayaking. It invites lots of options for cropping and various afternoon and daylight effects. I've added my twists in crop, curves and levels. -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis |
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 Pentaxian Premium join:2008-01-23 West Milford, NJ | reply to SueS Two things - What is the thread size of this lens and, does the front element rotate when focusing? |
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| reply to SueS I agree with the other comments regarding clouds,they add so much to an image.Blue skies on the other hand, although good for the sunbather:),not so good for the photographer.If you are considering moving into landscape photography,then I would certainly buy/use a tripod.Shoot in RAW or auto bracket your shots. |
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| reply to SueS as others have already suggested,
in camera,
to emphasize the person and demphasize the sky, you can darken the sky with a polarizer or a neutral density gradient filter or a warm-tone gradient filter. the polarizer would have darkened the sky if the sun were to the left or right, but not if the sun were at your back or ahead of you. it would also have darkened the reflections on the water.
but the polarizer price is the loss of ~2 stops. the gradient filters would not have that light loss for the center. all require some extra fussing under time pressure.
in camera, to give interest in the sky, choose a day with clouds. the clear flat skies are the day of and 1-2 days after the passage of a cold front. little postcard-puffy clouds arrive about day 3-4, bigger ones later, and overcasts and rains precede the next cold front. about 10 days between fronts, depending on location, month, jet stream, etc etc. |
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| reply to SueS said by SueS :but then you will have to teach me how to use it. It's a deal. Actually, CPs are good for anything that has a reflection that you want to minimize so don't think of it as "only for landscapes". |
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  SueS Premium join:2007-05-16 Macon, MO | reply to Pentaxian I would want one to fit my Tamron 28-75mm. |
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