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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1498458"><b>jlivingood</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  TKJunkMail <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Also check out links about "traffic optimization" that the IETF is evaluating here:<br><br>Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) Birds of a Feather (BoF) meetings. Comcast is participating in IETF 72.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/alto.html" >www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/alto.html</A><br> </div>There were two good relevant BoFs at IETF 72 a few weeks ago.  One was ALTO, as you noted.  That did not become a working group yet - there will be a 2nd BoF. ALTO is focused on how to standardize P4P-style optimizations of P2P, such as P4P iTrackers.  I'd expect some good content at IETF 73 at the ALTO BoF.  The agenda from the 72nd meeting is at &raquo;<A HREF="http://www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/alto.html" >www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/alto.html</A> and you will note we contributed to the requirements document at &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kiesel-alto-reqs-00.txt" >www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/dra&middot;&middot;&middot;s-00.txt</A> .<br><br>The other relevant BoF was TANA, see agenda at &raquo;<A HREF="http://www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/tana.html" >www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/tana.html</A>, where we presented (see &raquo;<A HREF="http://downloads.comcast.net/docs/IETF%2072%20-%20TANA%20BoF%20-%20ISP%20Requirements%20-%20Comcast.pdf" >downloads.comcast.net/docs/IETF%&middot;&middot;&middot;cast.pdf</A>).  TANA is expected to become an official working group before the 73rd meeting.  This is very focused on congestion notification mechanisms, as well as bulk data classes.  <br><br>JL]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:23:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/107980"><b>DaveNJ</b></A> : This is very common sense what comcast is doing rather then messing with protocols. Throttling connections down temporarily is the answer, to bandwidth hogs. Voip, etc should always be protected. Eventually comcast gets it. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:04:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>TKJunkMail</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  avd706 <A HREF="/useremail/u/766601"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>These slides deserve a topic to themselves<br> </div>Comcast also keeps updating info on this topic at this web page:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.comcast.net/terms/network/" >www.comcast.net/terms/network/</A><br><br>Especially check out the section of this page with downloads of presentations made on the topic in PDF format.<br><br>Also check out links about "traffic optimization" that the IETF is evaluating here:<br><br>Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) Birds of a Feather (BoF) meetings. Comcast is participating in IETF 72.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/alto.html" >www3.tools.ietf.org/agenda/72/alto.html</A><br><br>And there is a multi-page discussion of Comcast's new technique of throttling here at BBR:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r20981131-Speed-Comcast-to-throttle-individual-users-all-protocols">[Speed] Comcast to throttle individual users; all protocols</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:13:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/766601"><b>avd706</b></A> : These slides deserve a topic to themselves]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:11:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1173383"><b>ptrowski</b></A> : Interesting.....<br>Slide 13 really caught my eye as the mention competing services as real-time apps, and will "attempt" to not affect them.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:09:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>TKJunkMail</b></A> : Look at slides 13-15 from this technical presentation that Comcast made at an IETF(Internet Engineering Task Force) workshop back in May.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://downloads.comcast.net/docs/Comcast-IETF-P2Pi-20080528.pdf" >downloads.comcast.net/docs/Comca&middot;&middot;&middot;0528.pdf</A><br>[att=1]<br>[att=2]<br>[att=3]<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/21002852?c=1342603&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMTAwMzgzOS54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="122385 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=437 SRC="/r0/download/1342603.thumb600~5ff63e3af19740a2c83e5996829fde06/agnostic1.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A><br>Slide 13</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/21002852?c=1342604&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMTAwMzgzOS54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="133387 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=447 SRC="/r0/download/1342604.thumb600~10bef924a1704fe65ab2f9d2dc0c93d7/agnostic2.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A><br>Slide 14</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/21002852?c=1342605&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMTAwMzgzOS54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="95430 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=445 SRC="/r0/download/1342605.thumb600~d38c347ee3653ea8dbc3cc95875b28a7/agnostic3.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A><br>Slide 15</TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:57:04 EDT</pubDate>
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