http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21004923 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:46:51 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:46:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21010315 said by en102:

TWC is not going to replace ALL of its current devices for Cable card devices, but will offer a 'patch' for a fee for those that want to use it.
TWC knew the rules ahead of time. they chose to ignore them. hence, FCC fine and wrist slap. hopefully it continues until they figure out a way to make everything play nice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21010315 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:06:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21007363
They are required to provide devices which work with TiVo under the guise of Cable CARDs or equivalent technology. They didn't. They also rent a competitive DVR, and this non-action to provide the adapters they are required to provide could be considered anti-competitive (read: Illegal) activity by a regulated entity. In fact, this smells of a cash grab. I wonder how many of the customers forced to "downgrade" (which is what going from a HD TiVo to a cable DVR is) were provided cable-owned DVRs free of charge. It's either the adapter or a temporary freebie on the DVR until the adapters are available.

Too bad the FCC didn't actually issue a fine. Maybe a lawsuit would be a better idea.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21007363 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:17:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21006734 said by en102:

Not that I don't have issues with the way its being handled, but..

Typical business 101 though - if you're forced to implement a solution for a small group of users, you pass that cost on.
TWC is not going to replace ALL of its current devices for Cable card devices, but will offer a 'patch' for a fee for those that want to use it.
That defeats the entire point of a cable card.
And they were fined, so there is no point in defending the cable company. Legally they are wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21006734 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:12:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-TiVO-makes-use-of-Time-Warners-network-21006527 said by en102:

TiVO has little to stand on.
What's next... me suing TiVO for not working with analog after Feb 2009 or not working with OTA boxes ?Uh, it will work fine with OTA boxes. They just released an update to support them. Anyway, that's a Series 2 issue; SDV is a Series 3 issue. (The Series 3 already had a built-in digital OTA tuner.)

It's about time a cable company got punished for deploying SDV without accommodation in place for CableCard users -- since it violates the intent of the CableCard mandate -- but this is too little, too late. Even the silly tuning adapter (a ridiculous kludge of a design) will only help TiVos, and not many (any?) other CC devices.
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Typical business 101 though - if you're forced to implement a solution for a small group of users, you pass that cost on.
TWC is not going to replace ALL of its current devices for Cable card devices, but will offer a 'patch' for a fee for those that want to use it.
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TiVO has little to stand on.
What's next... me suing TiVO for not working with analog after Feb 2009 or not working with OTA boxes ?
I'm sure we could find a federal judge out there who could find somewhere in the Constitution that TiVO is a Constitutional right.
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TiVO has little to stand on.Only if TWC was not advertising these devices as being supported in any official capacity. If that is the case the fine should be $0.
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