Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? in Verizon Online DSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21006754 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:30:36 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:30:36 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21186943 seeingwhite :
said by seeingwhite See Profile :

said by anonn :

if your pfsense is 192.168.2.1, try logging into the modem and changing its interface IP to 192.168.2.2, should be able to login to gui that way and still have pfsense establishing pppoe connection and acting as a gateway.

The gui is just a small webserver, it needs to be on the same subnet as your network if you want access to it without setting up a separate router to connect the two subnets.
Interesting..thanks. I will try it when I get home. I was under the impression that they had to be on different subnets for it to work. I'll let you know how it goes.
Didn't work. Modem at 192.168.2.1 and pfsense at 192.168.2.2.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21186943 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:39:48 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21172651 seeingwhite :
said by anonn :

if your pfsense is 192.168.2.1, try logging into the modem and changing its interface IP to 192.168.2.2, should be able to login to gui that way and still have pfsense establishing pppoe connection and acting as a gateway.

The gui is just a small webserver, it needs to be on the same subnet as your network if you want access to it without setting up a separate router to connect the two subnets.
Interesting..thanks. I will try it when I get home. I was under the impression that they had to be on different subnets for it to work. I'll let you know how it goes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21172651 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:20:59 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168073 anon : if your pfsense is 192.168.2.1, try logging into the modem and changing its interface IP to 192.168.2.2, should be able to login to gui that way and still have pfsense establishing pppoe connection and acting as a gateway.

The gui is just a small webserver, it needs to be on the same subnet as your network if you want access to it without setting up a separate router to connect the two subnets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168073 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:48:01 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145749 seeingwhite : JohnA,

Thanks for that link. It looks like he was trying to use the same subnet for the modem and router. I am using different subnets, which according to the thread, should work without further configuration.

My modem: 192.168.1.X
my pfsense firewall: 192.168.2.X

So it looks like I'm back to square one, especially since I should be able to access 192.168.1.1 without any adjustments. In other words, it should "just" work. *sigh*
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nTelos Portable Broadand user's forum: »ntelosusers.freeforums.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145749 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:04:30 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144436 JohnA : As for me only, I understand. I personally wouldn't cripple the pfsense, just to be able to look through it, rather then just swap a PC connection to look around it.

There was 1 method of doing what you want, posted here in the past. I can't recall how it was done, or the poster that presented it. Maybe someone else has it book/site marked, but I don't.

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edit: Here it is. ChrisDAT's post in this thread. Search to locate it was: modem stats router

»Get Modem Stats while Hooked Up to Router?

He hasn't posted in over 6 months, so I hope you can make heads or tails out of what you find from him. He posted it several times so looking farther into the search results may produce a second iteration of the same information, stated in a different way. I stopped at the first instance.
His profile shows a recent log in here. If you get stuck try IM to him.

The premise, as I understand it is: You make the PPPoE connection out of the router backwards into the switch of the router/ out of the switch into the LAN port of the modem. That makes the modem's interface available on the switch to the connected PCs. The PCs look directly at the interface to see the modem, while all their other traffic goes through the router, where they get their IPs.

Let us know how it works out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144436 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:38:33 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21143957 seeingwhite :
said by JohnA See Profile :

I think he means the interface IP, which is still available.

I am confused as to what he's doing, as he first said he was resetting the modem and changing his router to go through it. Then he claimed he was doing what I said, which is completely different. Oh, well.
This thread was split off from the orginial by a MOD. Let me clarify:

1) I prefer to run the modem in bridge mode and allow my pfsense firewall/router do the PPPoE. This works fine, however, I can no longer access the modem's web interface from my LAN. The only way I have been able to do it is through the suggestion by JohnA. This is not a long-term solution for me, though.

2) Since I could not figure out how to access the web interface from my LAN while in bridged mode, I ended up changing my network setup back to the modem doing PPPoE and pfsense getting a DHCP address from the modem. The allows me to still access the modem's web interface (obviously) from the LAN. The problem with this setup is that I lose some functionality in pfsense such as DDNS.

Summary, I want to be able to bridge the mode to my pfsense firewall as mentioned in #1, but I am currently setup like #2 until I can find out what is keeping me from accessing the modem's web interface when setup like #1 (bridge).

I hope that clears it up. And thanks for the replies guys.
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nTelos Portable Broadand user's forum: »ntelosusers.freeforums.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21143957 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:41:47 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21143956 anon : hi, actually you dont have to bridged the 7500 because it'a also a router, so you don't have to connect a router to another router...
pls let me know if you still have problems on your 7500, tnx]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21143956 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:41:30 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142985 JohnA :
I think he means the interface IP, which is still available.

I am confused as to what he's doing, as he first said he was resetting the modem and changing his router to go through it. Then he claimed he was doing what I said, which is completely different. Oh, well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142985 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:38:17 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142730 mb :
said by seeingwhite See Profile :

The bigger issue seems to be that it should be possible to access the modem even in bridged mode, by simply navigating to the modems LAN IP. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how, yet.
When the modem is in the bridge mode, it cannot have an IP address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142730 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:21:43 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142490 seeingwhite :
said by JohnA See Profile :

You can always access the modem/routers, while in bridge mode, by direct connecting a PC to them that is set to a static IP in the modem's subnet. Say 192.168.1.21, 255.255.255.0, 192.168.1.1. The hangup comes from the DHCP server not running in the 7500, so even a direct connected PC doesn't get an IP. It's a pain in the neck, but much easier than changing the settings on multiple pieces of equipment.

For the PC you access the modem with:
You can always create a new connection, in network connections, with the static IP, and keep it in the disabled state. When you need modem access, disable the regular connection, enable the static connection, change the wire from your router to the modem. Done in the modem, just reverse it.
JohnA, thanks for taking the time to reply. As far as your suggestion, I had been doing essentially the same thing that you suggested. But doing this every time I want to check the modem's transceiver statistics got old very fast.

The bigger issue seems to be that it should be possible to access the modem even in bridged mode, by simply navigating to the modems LAN IP. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how, yet. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142490 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:05:11 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141425 JohnA :
You can always access the modem/routers, while in bridge mode, by direct connecting a PC to them that is set to a static IP in the modem's subnet. Say 192.168.1.21, 255.255.255.0, 192.168.1.1. The hangup comes from the DHCP server not running in the 7500, so even a direct connected PC doesn't get an IP. It's a pain in the neck, but much easier than changing the settings on multiple pieces of equipment.

For the PC you access the modem with:
You can always create a new connection, in network connections, with the static IP, and keep it in the disabled state. When you need modem access, disable the regular connection, enable the static connection, change the wire from your router to the modem. Done in the modem, just reverse it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141425 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:01:57 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141241 sashwa : Either forum (Vz DSL or Westell) would have been okay. Let's see if we can get you some help in Verizon.

Moved in from Westell.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141241 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:06:00 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21140113 seeingwhite : Yup, Verizon DSL. I just thought I would get more help out of the Westell Forum since the issue is really a hardware one instead of an ISP issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21140113 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:58:24 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21139639 sashwa : seeingwhite, is Verizon your ISP? If it is, I can move you over to that forum to see if you can get some help there. Just let me know if it's DSL or FiOS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21139639 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:00:25 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21139528 seeingwhite :
said by seeingwhite See Profile :

Sorry to bring up this old post. I have a Westell 7500 modem successfully bridged to my PFsense router. I followed the instructions in this thread. The problem is that I cannot access the modem's web based configuration. My Pfsense IP is 192.168.2.2, and the modem is 192.168.1.1, but I cannot access the modem's configuration. Any ideas?
Still hoping someone can help me with this.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21139528 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:33:33 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21030863 seeingwhite :
said by Foolhardy :

You probably won't be able to unless you reset the westell to a regular modem/router.
Looks like you are right. I had to set the Westell modem to do the PPPoE again, and change the Pfsense box to dhcp.

Now I can access the config management in the Westell Modem. Seems like it shouldn't have to be this way though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21030863 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:13:51 EDT Re: Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21028228 anon : You probably won't be able to unless you reset the westell to a regular modem/router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21028228 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:40:23 EDT Verizon Westell 7500 - How do I set it to bridge mode? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21006754 seeingwhite : Sorry to bring up this old post. I have a Westell 7500 modem successfully bridged to my PFsense router. I followed the instructions in this thread. The problem is that I cannot access the modem's web based configuration. My Pfsense IP is 192.168.2.2, and the modem is 192.168.1.1, but I cannot access the modem's configuration. Any ideas?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21006754 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:15:44 EDT