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|  Retail municipal FTTH has 1 big failing - ......
........... the ability to tax and tax to bailout the system when the municipal system is losing money hand over fist. And that is why state laws passed preventing this. It isn't just incumbent ISPs doing this, but legislators distrustful of local taxing authorities.
A Utah state law, passed after those two fiber projects were in discussion, prohibits municipally owned networks from selling retail services.
“What happened in Utah is something we have been talking about for years — the state law that effectively prohibits retail service is, in my view, a very substantial part of what is wrong with the environment in Utah and particularly iProvo,” said Jim Baller, attorney with Baller & Herbst, which represents municipalities
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| This is somewhat a mis-approximation of what's happening with ftth in utah. Iprovo was owned and operated by the city of provo and had trouble breaking even. Utopia is different, it's a conglomerate of several cities that control the lines, but retail services are left to whatever corporations want to use the lines to compete. Currently there are about 3-4 providers (AT&T used to be one).
Where utopia shines is in the connections/cost. Residential fiber connections are 15/15 for ~40 and 50/50 for ~60 dollars a month. They do have caps but 500GB is pretty generous and you don't get kicked off for going over, but will have to pay for additional bandwidth.
Business connections can go up to 1gbit symmetrical.
Ping times in games to close networks are sub 15ms.
A business that has say a dual T1 (3mbit) connection that costs them around ~700-1000 dollars a month would save significantly by getting a 30/30 business connection (10 times the bandwidth) for around 150 a month. They could even keep the ancient T's as a backup if they are worried about SLA's and just enjoy the 10x bandwidth for the extra 150. |
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delusion FTL
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Let me put it another way.
As a business would you accept to saving ~6000 dollars a year in internet connection costs if your risk for future taxes went up ~3000 dollars a year?
As a consumer would you accept the potential risk of paying 100-200 more a year in taxes if you could get a 50/50 connection for the same or less than you are paying for currently? |
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said by TKJunkMail  :........... the ability to tax and tax to bailout the system when the municipal system is losing money hand over fist. And that is why state laws passed preventing this. It isn't just incumbent ISPs doing this, but legislators distrustful of local taxing authorities. give me a frickin' break.
most of these "legislators distrustful of local taxing authorities" have either been told or paid (or both) to be distrustful by the incumbent phone or cable company.
that's where they get their information that makes them "distrustful". |
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karlmarx
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Sort of like bailing out bear sterns now isn't it. Hmmmm.. government bailing out megacorp = good, government bailing out THE PEOPLE = bad?
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| said by karlmarx :Sort of like bailing out bear sterns now isn't it. Hmmmm.. government bailing out megacorp = good, government bailing out THE PEOPLE = bad? Bailing out Bear Sterns bad too. Never approved of corporate bailouts.
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