tiger9
join:2005-08-01
Ont,Canada | reply to ninjatutle
Re: You can thank p2p
Technically, piracy is not theft. Either way, infringement or theft, whichever way you look it at, it's still not a good thing. |
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| reply to karlmarx
And the definitions go on:
Yours says: "the act of stealing."
And if we look up what it is to steal we find:
»dictionary.reference.com/browse/steal
1. take without the owner's consent; Which is why, in law, we find theft of services even though property is not taken. Instead, use of the house is "taken" (which also means 'not paid for')
Which is why taking a copy of copyrighted material (without the consent of the copyright owner) is also theft. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
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| Its no use, he just pretends not to understand... |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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So, by your own definition, copyright infringment should be a felony? I mean, the law defines 'theft' as a felony, while the law defines 'infringement' as a civil matter. Of course, you used the word 'steal', which is different than theft. You accuse people of STEALING, when they are not, they are infringing. You accuse people of theft, yet the courts do not consider it theft, otherwise, there would be criminal charges filed, not civil charges.
The word makes the crime. If you say rape is a 'hate crime', then you are doing a disservice to both rape victims and hate crime victims, because they are two totally different things.
When you say infringement is 'stealing', you are attempting to make a CIVIL matter into a CRIMINAL matter, which it's not.
Why don't you just call it what it is, INFRINGEMENT. Ahh, because you can't rile up the unwashed masses with the term 'infringement', while you CAN rile them up by accusing people of STEALING, which they are not!
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | reply to ninjatutle
p2p on a cellphone? hardly. |
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ninjatutle
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robl27
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join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL
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| If one uses peerguardian and downloads flac files who has a need for CD's?
»phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
thanks to p2p in the old days, i purchased cd's now, forget it.
downloading songs is not stealing. what the RIAA is doing to the artist is.
if we all boycott cd's, then the world may be a better place.
-Rob
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roymustang
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join:2002-01-12
Oxford, MS | reply to ninjatutle
Have you actually tried using BT on EVDO? Lets just say in my experience it is not very viable. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | No, because I never used torrents. |
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| reply to karlmarx
Copyright infringement is in criminal law. It is a crime. A felony in infringement is the same as in theft - dependant upon severity. You know? Carrying off with a piece of gum isn't going to draw the same charges as kyping a nice new Maserati off the dealer lot. The police who go after y'old bad guys, not the courts, don't have the resources to go after all the little joe-blows copying Madonna's latest.
Like it or not, copyright infringement falls in with the well established use of the word theft. People who don't pay for their copies are thieves in the same way as, in criminal law, people who don't pay for services are considered thieves. In fact, they even call it 'theft of services.' Weird!!
But...., I digress. I think you already know all this. Then again, maybe it really does escape you? |
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Bellundo
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Not in Alberta where Telus is. A good many of them skip out without paying a cent then do the same thing next month and keep on moving from month to month. Others just stay the 90 days until a court order evicts them. Real estate prices have plummeted there thanks to sellers who can't rent their units out because the whole province are nothing but deadbeats. |
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