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Dryvlyne
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reply to Morac
Re: So encrypt your traffic

I think your missing an important point...

quote:
The tactic, which one hacker claims is bigger than the recent DNS exploit, lets an attacker monitor unencrypted internet traffic anywhere in the world, and even modify it before it reaches its destination.
This would undoubtedly inspire all sorts of new phishing scams and attempted malware "drive-bys".

The real problem with the Internet, in general, is that it was built upon the presumed trust between 2 or more machines. I just don't understand how the "fathers" of the Internet couldn't have predicted that it would somehow be abused and that proper precautions should have been instituted in the first place!


Morac

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said by Dryvlyne See Profile :

I think your missing an important point...

quote:
The tactic, which one hacker claims is bigger than the recent DNS exploit, lets an attacker monitor unencrypted internet traffic anywhere in the world, and even modify it before it reaches its destination.
You emphasized the wrong part of that sentence. I fixed it for you.

said by Dryvlyne See Profile :
The real problem with the Internet, in general, is that it was built upon the presumed trust between 2 or more machines. I just don't understand how the "fathers" of the Internet couldn't have predicted that it would somehow be abused and that proper precautions should have been instituted in the first place!
You do realize that the Internet was invented before most people even had a home computer. Back then there was only a handful of computers connected and all were controlled by either Government entities or Colleges. Security wasn't really an issue back then.

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Exactly, it was "turned over" and basically bloomed from that. The government turns over a lot of technology and it is up to those that use it to do what they wish with it.

In this case, the internet, there is not a central "advisor" on this, nor should there be. The fathers of the internet have nothing to do with this problem, people do. Stop using the internet, your fu%$ing it up.

Really, the reason behind projects like Internet2 and others is to build a new "internet". A new set of standards everyone will agree to work with. Very hard to do since we cannot agree on anything (and we being everyone, every country, the world, cannot agree). BGP is easy to fix, that really is no concern.

The "fathers", if I remember correctly, did realize it would be abused. When they let the technology "go", basically made it public, it was not up to them to secure it. BGP was a protocol that came way after the "internet was invented", it was a dynamic protocol to allow efficient routing and link control. It works great. The people to "blame" if it must be are carriers and the people using BGP, they are not using it correctly. I do not even know who came up with BGP, I think Cisco but I may be wrong (at least BGP 3, 4 who ?)
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