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  evgray
join:2003-05-19 Fort Scott, KS
·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: Hmm.... We only have At&T or crappy cable internet available here. We have the elite 6meg dsl and I have yet to get above 5000 and they say that that is fast enough and don't worry about it, it's within their range of speed that they have to offer me. If you switch, I hope that you get faster speeds than me. | |
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join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | Re: Hmm.... You maximum speed is only going to be about 5220kbps What speeds are you getting? | |
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join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA | Re: Hmm.... As crummy as PPPoE is, ATM overhead is the biggest culprit preventing him from getting his advertised speeds. At least Verizon over-caps to compensate for it. -- AT&T U-Hearse Your funeral. Delivered.
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join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | Re: Hmm.... The area I was in while in school was ex-gte verizon. They gave you the sync rate that compensated for overhead, but in that area they used dhcp instead of pppoe. Speeds were actually higher than the advertised rate because of that. | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | I don't understand why at&t doesn't compensate for overhead in it's stated speeds... just advertise it as 5.2Mbps. | |
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join:2006-01-18 Chicago, IL 2 edits | I agree with insomniac cause I live less than 1000 ft from my CO
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join:2001-04-11 Tinley Park, IL | With overhead on at&t, the best speed you could hope for on a 6M down connection would be 5100. | |
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 |  Couch Potato What? Premium join:2004-08-29 Evansville, IN | Back when I had AT&T DSL, I also had elite, I was about 300 ft. from my RT and had perfect line stats, new drop, new jack, and only received 5200 at most on the download. That's just how it is with them. | |
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  evgray
join:2003-05-19 Fort Scott, KS
·AT&T DSL Service
| 4900 down and usually 615 up. My speeds are usually consistent. We switched from a normal phone in house line to a dry loop and my speed went down. I did have 5200 all of the time. We have two lines into our house and when we switched, they moved our dsl to the other line and that is when the speed dropped. | |
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 jester121 Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | You don't really think AT&T isn't going to follow suit within 6 months? | |
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 |  |  |   fatmanskinny Premium join:2004-01-04 Wandering | Re: Hmm.... Nah, I just believe that the consumer must realize the power of their hard-earned (probably not in your case. lol) dollar. -- God saved me from myself! Thank you, Lord, in the Name of Jesus! | |
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·surpasshosting
·ViaTalk
| Re: Hmm.... said by fatmanskinny :Nah, I just believe that the consumer must realize the power of their hard-earned (probably not in your case. lol) dollar. Yeah, that's me -- Mr. Trust Fund Guy. 
Actually, I feel like I get more than my money's worth from my $42.95/month internet connection -- many hours of entertainment and convenience. In fact it's probably the best value out of all our discretionary household expenses. | |
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| said by fatmanskinny :Nah, I just believe that the consumer must realize the power of their hard-earned (probably not in your case. lol) dollar. The problem is that you're not showing them anything other than you'll spend more money else where to get the same thing done so they know you have the money to spend in the first place.
You're also proving the worth of the broadband connection, you do know that, right?
You're going to wind up paying more for what you had before and getting less - and they know it. Further, eventually, dial up won't be available anymore. some law will ultimately render it obsolete and the FCC will restrict it back down to 9600 or 14.4 or something to make it used only for small credit card or fax machines..
it's bound to happen.. but taking a step back and paying more, like I said, you're not proving anything to them. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| yah it sounds like he is.
People are going over board on the caps. Especially if they are under the limit. The rule always applies though don't like it take your business else where. But if ATT, and VZ does it and you go to dial-up what's going to happen when you're limited to 150 or 200hours per month? ouch! didn't think of that did ya fatmanskinny? And yes most providers especially nationwide resell their access and limit the amount of hours one can get online with each account. | |
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Those caps don't look too bad after all. /sarcasm -- God saved me from myself! Thank you, Lord, in the Name of Jesus! | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| The good people at PeoplePC are actually owned by Earthlink. What are you planning on doing if they actually close?
it's up to Elink to sell PeoplePC customers off as a whole or just leave you hanging. And as far as Elink and done so far they'll leave you hanging. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: Hmm.... was that post to me? if so no i have Buckeye Cable No caps. But as far as dial-up- i have a ton of local companies i could pick from if i wanted them. I just refuse to pay for a landline and support ATT. | |
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