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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
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reply to funchords
Re: Are my Comcast OnDemand HD movies capped?

No, there is just congestion.

I'm sure your box errors out sometimes when you try to play a video.

threetrolls

join:2003-04-19
Bellevue, WA

reply to Doctor Four
I agree. They are capping 14.1 million customers to deal with .1% of the users? BS.

They see the same future as Netflix, Amazon, Apple and the others. Watching movies and TV shows (are they still TV shows?) over the Internet is the way things are going and they are doing what they can to nip their competition in the bud.

With the caps as high as they are, it will allow the fledgling Internet based VOD/TV industry to grow (for a while). As the competition heats up and the industry offers higher quality content that competes directly with Comcasts offerings (and consuming much more bandwidth), they will use smoke and mirrors to point to the previous years and claim that caps haven't hurt competition as the industry has only grown.

It's a smart move.


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reply to espaeth
I'm still pretending Blu-ray doesn't exist. Besides, if I ever told the postman how much data he's carried, he'd have a retroactive hernia!


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reply to funchords
said by funchords See Profile :

If I'm a Comcast HSI user and a Comcast TV subscriber, am I going to sign up with NetFlix and watch their 2 Mbps stream -- knowing that some counter somewhere is racking up? Or am I going to quit NetFlix and pay Comcast a PPV fee, instead, knowing it's not "on the clock"?
Or you could rent your Blu-ray movies on the $16.99/mo 3-out unlimited plan.

Assuming the average Blu-ray movie is 30GB, and you have a 3 day turn-around on movies, that's 2.78mbps (90GB over 72 hours) on average through the USPS, and it's fully unmetered!


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reply to jaminus
said by jaminus See Profile :

Why'd you even bring up OnDemand?
Because of the anti-competitive effect of a bandwidth cap that is driven by a user's psychological behavior.

If I'm a Comcast HSI user and a Comcast TV subscriber, am I going to sign up with NetFlix and watch their 2 Mbps stream -- knowing that some counter somewhere is racking up? Or am I going to quit NetFlix and pay Comcast a PPV fee, instead, knowing it's not "on the clock"?

edit: Most people under the clock overestimate their usage and will vote for "unmetered" thinking their consumption will be worse than it is. So, most will probably ditch Netflix. In reality, though, they'll still not likely hit the bell by watching NetFlix a lot. It burns roughly 1 GB/hour.

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reply to voipdabbler
Most host-based bandwidth meters including AnalogX's NSL do not separate LAN and WAN traffic.

Sure if you only have one computer it's fine..

jaminus

join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA

reply to funchords
Why'd you even bring up OnDemand? It's a separate service operating on a different frequency and it does not contend with Internet traffic for bandwidth. You ask, "are my OnDemand HD movies capped?" and I simply do not see why you would expect Comcast to do such a thing unless congestion was an issue.

And you're right about OnDemand being IP-based. I don't know why I thought otherwise.


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said by jaminus See Profile :

Comcast OnDemand is not IP-based and it does not contend with Internet traffic. Even if everybody tried to order an on-demand movie at once, that would have no effect on Comcast's Internet service (though it might cause glitches with video programming)
Nothing you've said contradicts my point at all.

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said by jaminus See Profile :

Comcast OnDemand is not IP-based
I'm pretty sure it is, but it's IP on a closed system as you point out. In either case, the method is irrelevant.
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jaminus

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reply to funchords
Comcast OnDemand is not IP-based and it does not contend with Internet traffic. Even if everybody tried to order an on-demand movie at once, that would have no effect on Comcast's Internet service (though it might cause glitches with video programming)

voipdabbler

join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
reply to Hunter68
If they don't you can download AnalogX's NetStatLive -- it's a free utility.

my AnalogX's website download link for NetStatLive


Hunter68

join:2001-12-01
North Haven, CT
reply to Doctor Four
Will comcast offer a tool to determine how much bandwidth you have used month to date so that you do not go over the cap?


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reply to funchords
You hit the nail on the head: capping/throttling is not
being done because of piracy - that's just a strawman. The real
reason is to stifle the competition to their own video on
demand service.

IOW, the motivation for this is pure greed.

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Are my Comcast OnDemand HD movies capped?

If not, then I guess that -I- have nothing to worry about. Streaming video competitors, however...
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