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Smith6612
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[Interleave/Fastpath] Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

Since the other thread was starting to get too big, this one was started. Otherwise, for anyone wanting to switch between Interleaved and FastPath mode, just like the last thread post up your line stats (Transceiver stats) from the modem, and we can tell you if your line can handle FastPath or if it needs to go back to Interleaved. You can continue your discussion from the previous thread in here.

What is FastPath?
FastPath is a line mode that is set in DSL to improve latency on the DSL lines. Unlike Interleave which is used over longer or marginal lines because of it's error correcting abilities, FastPath will cut the latency from your modem to the DSLAM/Gateway in half, sometimes even more which is beneficial to gamers. For example, a 768k line may get a minimum of 35ms latency to the first gateway on Interleaved. On FastPath, this same connection can get its latency chopped to roughly 14ms. On faster plans from Verizon, you can get latency as low as 6ms on FastPath!

Do I need FastPath?
While everyone here may not be a gamer, FastPath because it cuts latency may make the internet a bit more "snappy," so if your line can handle FastPath but it isn't already set on FastPath, you might as well get it as it can benefit you in the long run, especially in the future since online gaming is a common thing to do these days.

Where do I ask for FastPath?
If you are a member on this site, you can ask to get moved to FastPath or onto Interleave mode via the Verizon Direct forum here. If you are not a member of this site, you can register and ask for FastPath or Interleave in the forum, or you can call Verizon up and they should be able to give it to you. We recommend the forums here though, as they can often save you a lot of time.

I asked for FastPath, why don't I have it?
Not everyone will be able to get FastPath. Though it is something that can be applied in literally minutes to your line, line limitations may be causing the line to not sync with FastPath. Also, the Central Office you are being fed out of may have denied the request for a reason such as the line possibly having problems as well. Traditionally, unless we see that your line cannot handle FastPath without losing sync, you should be able to get it.

What is Interleaved Mode?
Interleaved mode is basically a setting in DSL that will improve the reliability of a DSL like over long lines or marginal lines. Interleaved is also DSL's way of error correcting which is useful, again, or long or marginal lines. Interleaved will help raise the margins slightly and may improve transfer rates over marginal lines, but at the expense of latency. Pings on Interleaved are generally double of what they are on FastPath.

My line keeps disconnecting and I have FastPath! Should I move to Interleaved?
Well, hold on for a minute. Post up your line stats and we can certainly see if FastPath is making you disconnect. If it is the cause, we'll recommend some things for you based on what your internet use is like.

Hope this clears up some questions for people like on the last thread if anyone missed that.


H40

join:2006-02-03
League City, TX

[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

Does Verizon reset the setting? I got on fastpath like a year or so ago and never changed my service plan, but just out of curiosity I was looking up my transceiver stats and it says interleaved now... Don't know how long it's been like that though. Maybe my stats are worse now and they dropped me back? Anyways here they are:

Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 15.0 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 31.0 20.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 6.7 11.9

Am I still good enough for fastpath?


Smith6612
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Your stats should be all set to go for FastPath.

callmeboss

join:2008-03-30
West Lafayette, IN
Not sure about my stats.
I called once today, Verizon informed me that a line test as well as a test regarding latency are done during the initial stages and the technicians should have provided me with the optimal settings. I'm assuming it's BS considering so many people have posted and have been changed to FastPath.

My Stats:
Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 7548 863
Margin (dB) 21.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.0 15.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 20.1 12.1


Smith6612
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Well, your margins are acceptable for FastPath, so it seems like you were fed some bad info. Otherwise, go for it and see how it works out. Seeing as though you already have the 7.1Mbps speed, you are obviously close enough to handle it.

r00ter4u

join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
reply to Smith6612
i was on fastpath and then moved to interlaced when a technician was at location looking at a high latency issue and low connection speeds. but it worked for over 2 years on fastpath. now that i'm on interlaced i feel my gaming has gotten laggier and downloads are alot slower. any suggestions?


Smith6612
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Can you post up your line (Transceiver) stats for us to see? It may have worked good for 2 years with FastPath, but if the line degraded a bit, that might explain why your speeds were slow with high latency. Yet again, many times there's just a problem at the CO with congestion or the like.

r00ter4u

join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
reply to Smith6612
Transceiver Revision: 01.00.09.00
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 14.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 39.0 23.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.7 11.0

i was also wonder if i would be eligible for the speed upgrade. assuming i'm less then a mile away. with those stats.


Smith6612
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You're close to 2 miles from the source of the DSL, so the 7.1Mbps speed won't happen, sorry. Otherwise, ask for FastPath in the Verizon Direct forum here again if you can. If the pings and speeds are still not what they are supposed to be after FastPath, create a new thread in this forum and we can help you.

razedavid

join:2007-05-18
New York, NY
reply to Smith6612
am i qualify for FastPath?
and if yes should i call verizon to tell them to change it? or i just ask here???
i am n00b at this srry

Transceiver Revision: 6.2.0.211
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 832
Margin (dB) 12.5 10.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 50.0 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 19.4 11.8


Smith6612
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I wouldn't go for FastPath with that line. While their may be a little bit of margin available, but not that much, your upstream isn't synced fully which may show that FastPath is only going to make that sync lower. Sorry .

You can get it if you want, but it may make the DSL become unstable until it can find a good sync rate to lock at which is why I suggest against it.

r00ter4u

join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
so i was moved over to fast path. i see it in transtat i took a speedtest with only my main computer running and no other traffic according to netstat -a. here's a screen shot

»tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6elu7b&s=4

i gather that, that isn't the greatest speed and it isn't the 3Mb that i should be getting?


Jodokast96
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»www.speakeasy.net/speedtest Try testing there. Should give better results.

r00ter4u

join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
k that gave me better results but shouldn't the verizon site give the best results since it should just loop?


Jodokast96
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Not really for a few reasons. First, the test itself isn't a very good one. Second, the server for it is half way across the country. When running speed tests, it's best to run to servers that are closest to you.

48701826

join:2008-08-20
Victorville, CA
Verizon has admitted their Speed test site is not that good, but does anyone know why their speed test site is not that good. Also, how do you know where the Verizon speed test or receiving test server is located?


RR99i
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join:2003-03-18
Anderson, IN
reply to Smith6612
Hi Smtih6612 ,

Here are my stats:

Transceiver Revision: A2pB020b3.d19d
Vendor ID Code: 4D54
Line Mode: ADSL_2plus
Data Path: FAST

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec): 3358 863
Margin (dB): 17.2 15.8
Line Attenuation (dB): 40.5 22.3
Transmit Power (dBm): 7.8 12.4

Looks like Verizon has already set me for FastPath. I just got my DSL online today! It's been great so far. I'm sure if I qualify for the 7.1Mbps speeds or not? But it looks like I'm set up and ready to go! Thanks Verizon!
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RR


Jodokast96
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You may just sneak in under the limit for 7.1, but I kind of doubt it. Never know though.

jimmylao

join:2008-09-28
reply to Smith6612
Hi everyone, I just became a registered member as I was looking up for firmware upgrades because I had reformatted my computer without backing up bookmarks (I know, I know it was bad).

However, I then stopped by, saw this, and was wondering can I switch to Fastpath?


Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 20.0 15.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 34.5 18.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 9.5 11.9


Smith6612
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You have plenty of margin to mess around with (looks like enough to get 7.1Mbps with FastPath), so go ahead and ask for FastPath. Enjoy!

cvasquez1234

join:2008-09-30
Arlington, VA
reply to Smith6612
Are my statistics good enough for FastPath?

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 14.5 12.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 40.5 25.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 6.2 11.9

Thanks ahead of time...


Smith6612
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Yes, those stats should be fine.

zhardhead

join:2005-05-24
Clarksville, OH
reply to Smith6612
I was on fastpath for 2 months when i was having issues with my line they installed new equipment and I reupped my contract for another year and it switched back to this adsl2+ interleaved instead of the g.dmt interleaved . Can I get switched back to fastpath please, I was not having any issues on it when it was on . And the line response was much better

Transceiver Revision: 4.2.0.11
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 858 156
Margin (dB) 13.5 37.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 49.0 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 19.1 11.7


Smith6612
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I think something may be adding some noise to your line, as your margin on the downstream should be a lot higher, but you should be all set to go for FastPath.

berryman

join:2008-10-04
Wabash, IN
reply to Smith6612
Can I get FastPath?

Transceiver Revision: 4.2.0.11
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 18.5 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 18.5 12.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.3 11.9


Smith6612
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Your line is good for FastPasth, even with 7.1Mbps as well, so go ahead and request it. Enjoy!

berryman

join:2008-10-04
Wabash, IN
This might be a dumb question but I have to ask, What do you mean by "even with 7.1Mbps as well."


Smith6612
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Basically in some areas, you can get a higher speed than the 3Mbps speed for residential rates. By saying that, if 7.1Mbps were available to you and if you ever wanted it, your margins and attenuation is low enough where you can boost your speed to almost triple the sync rate on the downstream, same sync upstream and still keep enough margin to hold the connection with FastPath reliably.

erikhmeier

join:2002-01-31
Alexandria, VA
reply to Smith6612
Just wondering if it is worth the shot to move to FastPath and/or 7.1 (if available). First hop pings are currently ~ 24ms.

Here are my stats:
Transceiver Revision: 6.2.0.211
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 14.0 12.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 40.5 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.2 11.9


Smith6612
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That line should be fine for FastPath. The margins are where expected based on your speed and distance.
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