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CptFudge
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[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

Can't access the NID in my apartment as of yet. I was wondering if I can bump out of 1.1Mbps - 3.0Mbps tier to anything higher? My provisioned speed is around 2.89Mbps down and 0.73Mbps up. Current transceiver stat of my Westell 6100.

Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code:  4
Line Mode:  G.DMT Mode
Data Path:  Interleaved
Transceiver Information   Down Stream Path     Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec)         3360                 864
Margin (dB)                   20.5                 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB)         18.5                 13.0
Transmit Power (dBm)          7.1                  11.8
 

rtfm
join:2005-07-09
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Transceiver Information Down Up
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1184 448
Margin (dB) 22.0 19.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 42.0 31.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.6 11.8

Am I a good candidate to change to FastPath?
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I'm supposed to be at 3mbps down and 768kbps up
these are my stats:

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_2plus
Data Path FAST

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 2636 815
Margin (dB) 6.9 9.9
Line Attenuation (dB) 54.5 30.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.4 12.3

will switching to interleave help my connection
WiseAzz1
join:2003-05-11
Mount Pocono, PA

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Ive called many times they claim Im on interleave but modem says different .My internet pings just rocket thru the roof.
Any ideas?Had this problem in past was caused by fastpath

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_2plus
Data Path FAST

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3358 839
Margin (dB) 19.4 17.8
Line Attenuation (dB) 36.5 17.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 8.1 12.4
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IF THEY DO REALLY DO THAT THEN I'LL BE VERY HAPPY LOL

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Fred,
It may, but I doubt it.

Wise,
Fastpath will reduce pings, not increase them. Most likely congestion you are seeing.

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Having problems with gaming and i seem to get no bullet registration and people seems to see me at least a second before i see them. Tried messing around with mtu etc..

DSL Line (Wire Pair):

Line 1 (inner pair)

Protocol:

G.DMT Annex A

Downstream Rate:

1536 kbps

Upstream Rate:

384 kbps

Channel:

Fast

Current Noise Margin:

12.0 dB (Downstream) 17.0 dB (Upstream)

Current Attenuation:

63.0 dB (Downstream) 31.5 dB (Upstream)

Current Output Power:

16.3 dBm (Downstream) 11.9 dBm (Upstream)

DSLAM Vendor Information:

Country: {0x0F} Vendor: {ALCB} Specific: {0x00}

PVC Info:

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@beng1: Looking a lot better now. You should be good to go!

@ehsanafter: You're fine with those statistics. Typically when the changes take place the modem will report Fast, but sometimes it bugs out in getting that statistic. Seems to be mainly with Verizon's ADSL2+ DSLAMs. In this case, traceroutes are often the best check for FastPath vs. Interleaved

@MrFujoKicker: You're good. Plenty of room for higher speeds on that line too.

@rtfm8: Your stats look fine as well.

@WiseAzz1: As Jodokast mentioned, FastPath doesn't cause lag spikes unless your signal is marginal and the line is taking dumps as a result (but not fully disconnecting). This might not be the case, and the FastPath Statistic might also be getting mis-reported. For spikes, as mentioned most likely congestion somewhere or equipment not operating correctly. For FastPath vs. Interleaved? Traceroute in the morning hours will say the best.
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Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 736
Margin (dB) 15.6 9.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 46.0 30.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.7 11.9

The Up Stream looks off. Currently have the 1.1-3mbps plan, so also wondering if the increase to the 3.1-7mbps plan would be worth it. Thanks!

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See if you can do something to improve those line statistics a bit more, especially on the upstream end. If that can be fixed up there is a chance that right now the line could take more speed. 3Mbps may be where it's at though if ADSL2+ is not available either.
addicusbrown
join:2006-04-09
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How do I find this information so I can post it. It isn't showing as presented in my router information. I appreciate the assistance.
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I'm not really sure how people are getting that information, either, but here's something similar that I could get from my Verizon modem:

Broadband Status
Broadband Parameter
Status
VPI:
0
VCI:
35
Broadband Mode Setting:
ADSL
Broadband Negotiated Mode:
G.DMT
Connection Status:
CONNECTED
Downstream Speed:
1792 Kbps
Upstream Speed:
448 Kbps
Retrains:
0
Retrain Timer:
0 Days, 0H:2M:52S
ATM QoS class:
UBR
Near End CRC Errors Interleave:
0
Near End CRC Errors Fastpath :
N/A
Far End CRC Errors Interleave :
0
Far End CRC Errors Fastpath :
N/A
30 Minute Near End CRC Interleave :
0
30 Minute Near End CRC Fastpath :
N/A
30 Minute Far End CRC Interleave :
0
30 Minute Far End CRC Fastpath :
N/A
Near End RS FEC Interleave :
0
Near End RS FEC Fastpath :
N/A
Far End RS FEC Interleave :
0
Far End RS FEC Fastpath :
N/A
30 Minute Near End FEC Interleave :
0
30 Minute Near End FEC Fastpath :
N/A
30 Minute Far End FEC Interleave :
0
30 Minute Far End FEC Fastpath :
N/A
30 Minute Discarded Packets Downstream :
0
30 Minute Discarded Packets Upstream :
0
SNR Downstream :
31 dB
SNR Upstream :
26 dB
Attenuation Downstream :
13 dB
Attenuation Upstream :
8 dB
Power Downstream
3.1 dBm
Power Upstream
11.9 dBm

Am I a candidate for FastPath, and should I request that they undo their connection quality monitoring caps? I'm not too far from a Verizon building, although I'm not positive that it's where the communications equipment is housed. (FWIW I'm not getting the reported speed in practice... would love it if I could get the full 3 Mbps that was offered.)
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Hi, are my stats ok for FastPath or a speed higher than 3mbps?

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 28.6 14.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 7.0 3.0
Transmit Power (dBm) -3.-7 11.9

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@addicusbrown: Which modem are you using? Just need to know that info so we can point you in the right direction.

@Ledgem: Looks like that Verizon building may have the equipment. Have them turn on FastPath and if possible, push the line to 7.1Mbps. We'll talk then if more speed can be gotten, but I don't imagine 10Mbps and maybe 15Mbps with ADSL2+ is out of the question. It's hard to say at the moment for sure where your line tops out at since the margin on most modems tops at 31dB and each line is different. Essentially, an educated guess.

@slliders: You're golden for both. Ask for FastPath and also see if you can get 15Mbps/1Mbps on that line (or 7.1Mbps/768kbps if ADSL2+ DSLAMs are not available) as you are pretty close to the source of DSL and the transmit power might be that low to the point where it isn't being reported correctly. If you're on a remote, don't expect more than 3Mbps though. Again, hard to tell exactly but you've got plenty of room there for increases.
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I am using the Actiontec GT704GB Gateway router. I did just purchase a Rosewill RNX-N300RT (RNWB-11001) Wireless Router I am trying to replace the Actiontec with if I could only get it to actually get the Dynamic IP address.

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Since California uses DHCP you'll want to set the ActionTec up on Bridge mode and leave it alone for a few hours. After a few hours with no connectivity, have your Rosewill try getting an IP. That should renew a DHCP lease and get it working.
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VPI:

0

VCI:

35

Broadband Mode Setting:

ADSL2+

Broadband Negotiated Mode:

ADSL2+

Connection Status:

CONNECTED

Downstream Speed:

861 Kbps

Upstream Speed:

154 Kbps

Retrains:

0

Retrain Timer:

0 Days, 23H:24M:58S

ATM QoS class:

UBR

Near End CRC Errors Interleave:

3

Near End CRC Errors Fastpath :

N/A

Far End CRC Errors Interleave :

0

Far End CRC Errors Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Near End CRC Interleave :

6

30 Minute Near End CRC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Far End CRC Interleave :

0

30 Minute Far End CRC Fastpath :

N/A

Near End RS FEC Interleave :

0

Near End RS FEC Fastpath :

N/A

Far End RS FEC Interleave :

0

Far End RS FEC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Near End FEC Interleave :

1154060

30 Minute Near End FEC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Far End FEC Interleave :

0

30 Minute Far End FEC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Discarded Packets Downstream :

0

30 Minute Discarded Packets Upstream :

0

SNR Downstream :

20 dB

SNR Upstream :

43 dB

Attenuation Downstream :

36 dB

Attenuation Upstream :

23 dB

Power Downstream

0 dBm

Power Upstream

12.9 dBm

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Your line is just fine for FastPath. You will also want to, while asking for FastPath is to also ask for your profile to be moved to 1Mbps/384kbps. It's a free speed boost that doesn't change your package for billing
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Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 13.9 9.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 50.0 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 15.6 11.9

Would this handle FastPath?

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I would leave that on Interleaved. The line is a bit long and putting FastPath on will probably result in some stability issues. Not saying that it can't be done though.
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Hey smith is this something that can be done through this website?

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It is. Visit the Verizon Direct forum at: »Verizon Direct
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VPI:

0

VCI:

35

Broadband Mode Setting:

ADSL2+

Broadband Negotiated Mode:

ADSL2+

Connection Status:

CONNECTED

Downstream Speed:

1788 Kbps

Upstream Speed:

445 Kbps

Retrains:

0

Retrain Timer:

3 Days, 21H:39M:47S

ATM QoS class:

UBR

Near End CRC Errors Interleave:

0

Near End CRC Errors Fastpath :

N/A

Far End CRC Errors Interleave :

0

Far End CRC Errors Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Near End CRC Interleave :

0

30 Minute Near End CRC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Far End CRC Interleave :

0

30 Minute Far End CRC Fastpath :

N/A

Near End RS FEC Interleave :

0

Near End RS FEC Fastpath :

N/A

Far End RS FEC Interleave :

0

Far End RS FEC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Near End FEC Interleave :

10783

30 Minute Near End FEC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Far End FEC Interleave :

0

30 Minute Far End FEC Fastpath :

N/A

30 Minute Discarded Packets Downstream :

0

30 Minute Discarded Packets Upstream :

0

SNR Downstream :

21 dB

SNR Upstream :

33 dB

Attenuation Downstream :

22 dB

Attenuation Upstream :

10 dB

Power Downstream

0 dBm

Power Upstream

10.1 dBm

Smith6612
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Your line is good to go. Ask Verizon if they can push your line to 7 or 10Mbps. 3Mbps at the very minimum, then see if FastPath is a viable choice after the speed boost
superpc
join:2012-07-12
Gloucester, VA

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adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Retrain Reason: 2000
Channel: INTR, Upstream rate = 864 Kbps, Downstream rate = 3360 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.DMT
Channel: Interleave
Trellis: OFF
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 28.7 10.0
Attn(dB): 44.0 17.0
Pwr(dBm): 19.5 11.9
Max(Kbps): 9568 1008
Rate (Kbps): 3360 864

Am I good to go for FastPath or should I stay with Interleave for now? I usually get around 40ms to the exchange itself when I've done ping test, but I wonder if I could get less latency with FastPath. I'm around 1.4-1.8 miles from the exchange currently.
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I was on Fast Path and now they have me on interleaved, I wonder why here are my stats and I have had no connection problems
Transceiver Statistics
Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 18.0 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 36.0 17.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 10.8 11.9
dei28
join:2003-05-27
Greentown, PA

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They just did the same trick to my parents. Now they complain about the speed when fast path was fine for years.
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Am i good for fastpath ? My online gaming is laggy but my ping's are fine and speeds for downloading are fine.

Transceiver Revision 3.3.6.10.0.1
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_2plus
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 7669 860
Margin (dB) 10.6 0.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 44.4 0.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 18.1 12.1
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VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Broadband Mode Setting: ADSL2+
Broadband Negotiated Mode: ADSL2+
Connection Status: CONNECTED
Downstream Speed: 10063 Kbps
Upstream Speed: 1146 Kbps
Retrains: 6
Retrain Timer: 2 Days, 0H:30M:5S
ATM QoS class: UBR
Near End CRC Errors Interleave: 4714
Near End CRC Errors Fastpath : N/A
Far End CRC Errors Interleave : 576
Far End CRC Errors Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Near End CRC Interleave : 807
30 Minute Near End CRC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Far End CRC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Far End CRC Fastpath : N/A
Near End RS FEC Interleave : 0
Near End RS FEC Fastpath : N/A
Far End RS FEC Interleave : 0
Far End RS FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Near End FEC Interleave : 40587
30 Minute Near End FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Far End FEC Interleave : 13
30 Minute Far End FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Discarded Packets Downstream : 0
30 Minute Discarded Packets Upstream : 0
SNR Downstream : 14 dB
SNR Upstream : 9 dB
Attenuation Downstream : 31 dB
Attenuation Upstream : 14 dB
Power Downstream 0 dBm
Power Upstream 12.6 dBm

I actually called in for fastpath but even the supervisor had no idea what i was talking about :/

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@superpc: Your line's doing pretty good. Should be fine for FastPath and some additional speeds.

@josw: You're looking fine to me as well.

@dei28: You might want to have someone on this forum look at your line. Removing FastPath shouldn't kill the speed unless Verizon broke something in the process of taking it away, or there are line issues.

@fan_aLba: Your line is sort of on the edge. I'd keep FastPath off the line if possible, or get it downgraded to 5Mbps to ensure stability if the copper cannot be cleaned up a bit more. You look to be at or past the 2 Mile mark which is a good distance for 7.1Mbps to run over. Your upstream statistics are also not being reported which isn't too helpful.

@kteng: Did you say "Gamer Mode" by any chance? Sometimes some key words need to be used that allow them to get the idea of what's going on so the actual technical work can be done to complete the request. I would be careful with FastPath on that line though. Your line is showing a considerable amount of errors being corrected by Interleaving and very little being corrected by Impulse Noise correction.