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Smith6612
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[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

It pretty much means to try to eliminate as many sources of noise and attenuation as possible to insure top speeds and good margins in a sense.

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thanks again smith, can i ask you a question. what does cleaning up the line mean?

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Attenuation suggests Yes, Margin says no. Once you get FastPath, if you can get some more margin out of your line by cleaning it up and such, you should be good to go. Shoot for a margin of at least 16-18dB on 3Mbps with FastPath and you should be fine.

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Thanks Smith! will tell the people, hook me up! Also, do you think i could get 7.1?
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Thanks! I'll give them a call and get it changed

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Oh, sorry about that Pizz. Your line should be good to go as well.

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said by Smith6612:

That line is good to go.
how is my line

Smith6612
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That line is good to go.
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How are my stats for the switch to FastPath? I'm on the 3.0 mbps plan but have never gotten anywhere near that fast.
Thanks

Transceiver Revision: 4.2.0.11
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream / Up Stream
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1792 / 448
Margin (dB) 13.5 / 14.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 56.0 / 31.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 15.5 / 11.9

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Can i get fastpath, and also do i qualify for 7.1? thanks, new vz customer

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d19d
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 12.2 15.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 34.0 17.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 10.3 12.2

Smith6612
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No problem. See how things work out.

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I have a 25 ft wire extension from my jack to my router, I may try a wireless with short wire to the jack and see if that makes any possible difference. That's a small change from the total distance, but I can hope the wire is cheap enough so maybe it could help, idk.
My upstream frankly isn't that important to me except for a small amount of video conferencing, but really, dropping my pings would be more important to me than upstream bandwidth at this point.
Thank you very much, you've given me something to think about.

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[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Can I get fastpath?

I wouldn't suggest it, as your upstream is already out of sync. If you want it, you can go for it, but expect the upload speed to drop a little more to make up for the lost margin. Given your attenuation, you are a distance away from the exchange so that may be the best you'd get anyways at least in terms of stability.

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[Interleave/Fastpath] Can I get fastpath?

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 704
Margin (dB) 14.9 10.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 46.0 31.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 15.5 11.9
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[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

Thank you kindly sir!
Cheers

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To run it, you will need to find a grey box typically found outside of your home. That is the demarcation point between your home's copper and Verizon's copper plant, and is where Verizon will no longer service the copper without a fee or a protection plan almost all the time. Once you find this box, open up the Customer Access side, and in there will be a test jack with something possibly plugged into it. That jack is what you plug your modem into. Plug the modem into it, making sure that if possible the house's copper is dead, and see if the line's speeds and stats are better. If they are, the inside wiring is degrading the DSL signal.
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Thanks Smith,

Where do I run this NID test ?

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Hey Protos, your line is good to go for FastPath. You just need to clean up your upstream margin a little bit, as your upstream is out of sync. Do this by first running a NID test to see if you can squeeze more margin out of the line at the NID. Once you are able to clean up the DSL line a little bit so that the upstream sync rate is 864, and the margin is good, you can ask for FastPath. You can ask now pretty much, but that'll drop your upstream speed slightly. It's not a distance issue, as your attenuation is nice and low.

As per the other two settings, I'm not too familiar with the ActionTecs so, yeah. For the QOS setting, unless you have something that needs QOS, you shouldn't need it. If I'm guessing right, the DSL Mode is pretty much what kind of DSL it's going to use, like G.DMT or ADSL2, or DSL.lite. It all depends on what your line takes. Your line is using standard ADSL, so it's at least working where it should be.
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[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

Hi all,

Just got verizon dryloop dsl 3mb today. I need some help to determine if I qualify for fastpath.

I ran a line test which can be seen here »/lineq ··· /2493209

I see this when I go to 192.168.1.1

Model: GT704-WG
Firmware:3.20.3.3.5.0.9.2.14

DSL Status

VPI: 0
VCI: 35
DSL Mode Setting: MMode
DSL Negotiated Mode: G.DTM
Connection Status: Showtime
Speed (down/up): 3360/768
ATM QoS class: UBR
Near End CRC Errors : 2/0
Far End CRC Errors : 0/0
Near End CRC(Within last 30 mins) : 0/0
Far End CRC(Within last 30 mins) : 0/0
Near End RS FEC : 0/0
Far End RS FEC : 0/0
Near End FEC(Within last 30 mins) : 0/0
Far End FEC(Within last 30 mins) : 0/0
Discarded Packets(Within last 30 mins): 0
SNR Margin (Downstream/Upstream): 22/10
Attenuation(Downstream/Upstream):19/11

Which DSL mode should I select in the router and which QoS setting ??

If there are any other stats required please let me know and I shall post. Got this for gaming as I also currently have a 10mb rr package. So far latencies seem higher with verizon. If I can't get an improvement I shall have to cancel before my 30 days are up - any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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It might be pushing the line but you might be ok. A neighbor of mine has the same attenuation as you and they run 3Mbps+ Fastpath without issues.
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Smith6612 - thanks for all your insight...last question on this topic for me...I was thinking of upgrading to the 3.0Mbps package - will I will be OK with FastPath and 3.0?

Again, thanks

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That line is fine for FastPath.
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Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 15.5 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.0 20.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.6 11.9

Thoughts?

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@ SniprKlr: Your line will take FastPath, however you are at the limit of the 3Mbps package based on your line mode, so while you still have room for FastPath, you will be left with very little margin to mess around with. So, you can switch, but expect some possible resyncs at some lower sync rates if the margins drop too low. 6dB and below is typically not where you want to be, but at your distance it is still doable. If your line was running ADSL2+, you would be able to handle the 7.1Mbps package. You're running on G.DMT mode or ADSL so the max you're going to get is the 3Mbps plan.

@Hockey88: It all depends. If your line has been holding out good and you're not seeing the margins get into the 6dB and below range, you shouldn't have much to worry about as FastPath will only typically take 2dB of margin away from the line. And the ability of not being able to switch back is nonsense. It's a simple line mode that can be toggled back and forth. If it doesn't work out, the worst your line will do is resync at a lower speed or disconnect from time to time. Your margin is fine based on your previous post, so you should have no trouble with it what so ever.
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I requested FastPath in the direct support forum and a tech answered the reply with a lot of information on why not to switch and if it didn't work out I couldn't switch back, can anyone comment on this and should I be concerned?
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3 questions..How good is my line? can I get fastpath and Can i get 7mps with fast path..??

Transceiver Statistics:

Transceiver Revision:
A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED
DSL Speed 3360/864
Margin (dB) 8.8/11.0
Attenuation 43.0/22.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 8.8/12.2

Also a trace rout:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

tracert google.com

Tracing route to google.com [209.85.171.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter.westell.com [192.168.1.1]
2 37 ms 23 ms 24 ms 10.9.79.7
3 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms P3-3.LCR-05.BSTNMA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.44.70
]
4 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 130.81.29.172
5 34 ms 37 ms 34 ms so-6-2-0-0.BB-RTR2.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.19.70]
6 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms 0.ge-1-1-0.XL3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.1.45]
7 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms 0.ge-4-2-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.126]
8 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms xe-10-2-0.edge2.NewYork2.level3.net [4.68.110.23
3]
9 41 ms 36 ms 35 ms vlan79.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.126]
10 41 ms 34 ms 37 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.81]

11 53 ms 54 ms 53 ms ae-2.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.132.65]
12 52 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.140.190]
13 97 ms 90 ms 90 ms ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
14 128 ms 125 ms 126 ms ae-2.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.132.53]
15 118 ms 118 ms 117 ms ae-21-52.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.68.105.34]

16 158 ms 118 ms 118 ms GOOGLE-INC.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.79.104.74
]
17 112 ms 112 ms 112 ms 209.85.249.32
18 121 ms 125 ms 121 ms 72.14.239.12
19 120 ms 127 ms 118 ms 209.85.250.146
20 124 ms 137 ms 127 ms 209.85.251.153
21 129 ms 124 ms 122 ms 209.85.251.149
22 122 ms 131 ms 133 ms 74.125.30.134
23 121 ms 121 ms 120 ms cg-in-f100.google.com [209.85.171.100]

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The easiest way to get it is to register on this site and ask for it in the Verizon Direct forum here. They should be able to turn on FastPath almost immediately for you.

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I just called Verizon and the Tech support lady had no clue as to what I was requesting about when I asked her if I could have interleaving switched off so I could get Fast Path... Any information I could get on this subject would be nice.. Feel free to email me.. Cheers
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Thanks for the info...