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staticBlende

join:2008-07-26
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
reply to Smith6612

[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

I tried to get my line switched to fastpath by calling verizon but they told me only fios can have fastpath? Was I misinformed? Can I have fastpath with my statistics in the first place? Where do I request for the change in the forums if I can have it changed? Help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 11740 1028
Margin (dB) 11.0 10.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 24.0 13.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.5 11.0



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
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You were misinformed. FiOS doesn't have a need for Interleaving vs FastPath anyways, unless you have the VDSL variant of it. It's a fiber connection and is as close to the source as possible. Your line should be fine for FastPath.

You may want to consider trying the Verizon Direct forum here. I don't know if they still push these changes out since in recent months they have been replying back stating it's "automatic." Interleaved is the default setting Verizon uses now, whereas before it was based on line condition and area.


staticBlende

join:2008-07-26
Brooklyn, NY

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it. People like you make this forum one of the best on the web.



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24

You're welcome


staticBlende

join:2008-07-26
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL

I haven't checked the verizon direct forums but I called up the verizon high speed internet technical support and from what I could understand they told me that it was undoable on their end. Something about a router at their command center not having the interface to make the switch--at least that's what it sounded like. Oh well. I still appreciated the help. Keep on doing it.



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
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I wouldn't doubt it if some of the techs (mainly frontline) don't have the ability to push it. Many of them usually have to go to a higher up technician who has the ability to adjust profiles and so on. Of course, I might just be mistaken but from my own experience you're often put on hold for a few minutes while they try to reach another person who can do it.

Either way the new Optimization System Verizon has in place has changed around how they support some things, so that is most likely another factor to consider as well. Before techs could probably just go by and adjust what they needed to adjust, and have since had the tools taken away to do that for the sake of letting the computer system do it.

I don't know personally. Either way, best of luck, and thanks!


streaml1ne

join:2012-11-20
reply to Smith6612

Would like to get FastPath enabled if possible, modem is a Actiontec GT784WNV, here are the stats:

PPP Status
PPP Parameter Status
User Name: Newdsl
PPP Type: PPPoE
LCP State: UP
IPCP State: UP
Authentication Failures: 0
Session Time: 0 Days, 0H:59M:34S
Packets Sent: 12280
Packets Received: 13805

Broadband Status
Broadband Parameter Status
VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Broadband Mode Setting: ADSL2+
Broadband Negotiated Mode: ADSL2+
Connection Status: CONNECTED
Downstream Speed: 11740 Kbps
Upstream Speed: 1149 Kbps
Retrains: 0
Retrain Timer: 0 Days, 4H:7M:3S
ATM QoS class: UBR
Near End CRC Errors Interleave: 0
Near End CRC Errors Fastpath : N/A
Far End CRC Errors Interleave : 4
Far End CRC Errors Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Near End CRC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Near End CRC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Far End CRC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Far End CRC Fastpath : N/A
Near End RS FEC Interleave : 0
Near End RS FEC Fastpath : N/A
Far End RS FEC Interleave : 0
Far End RS FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Near End FEC Interleave : 16574
30 Minute Near End FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Far End FEC Interleave : 122
30 Minute Far End FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Discarded Packets Downstream : 0
30 Minute Discarded Packets Upstream : 0
SNR Downstream : 9 dB
SNR Upstream : 9 dB
Attenuation Downstream : 32 dB
Attenuation Upstream : 16 dB
Power Downstream 0 dBm
Power Upstream 12.5 dBm



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
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I would avoid FastPath on that line if you wish to keep 10Mbps.


streaml1ne

join:2012-11-20

The line is capped at 8/1 megs anyway, how about at that rate? This is a backup internet connection for me really so I don't mind if the speed dips some. How much of a drop would you anticipate if we switched it? Also, this line was turned up literally yesterday for the first time so I don't know if that makes a difference in the stats.



Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
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I don't believe an intermediate speed exists at least according to how I've seen Verizon provision speeds. The Intermediate speeds usually show up at 3Mbps or lower where lines start to have speed problems at farther distances and such. Never hurts to try but if it's already at a state where you're happy with it, I wouldn't mess with it.

The next speed down from 10Mbps/1Mbps is 7Mbps/768kbps.


streaml1ne

join:2012-11-20

The plan was 7.1 to 15. The tech who came out to hook up my existing line to whatever DSL gear was on the pole tested the line at 10/1, but download tests consistently put me at 8/768. I'm about a quarter to half mile from the CO in my town, and I was surprised I got 10/1 actually. Like I said it's a backup connection for me and I'd prefer lower latency over peak download rate if it's not too much hassle to change I'd like to try.



Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
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Shouldn't be too big of a hassle. Just ask Verizon to turn it down and then ask for FastPath. They should be pretty willing to do that


clikonco

join:2012-12-02
Claremont, CA
reply to Smith6612

Hi all, I was wondering if FastPath would be viable solution for me, Verizon just recently replaced the modem but the speeds are still up and down.

Transceiver Statistics
Transceiver Revision 3.3.6.10.0.1
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1920 480
Margin (dB) 8.7 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 62.3 31.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.5 11.9

Additionally is there anything else I can do on my end to help with the speed? my max is 3000Kbits up, however, couple weeks ago I would always hit 3200 Kbits. Now I am lucky if I even go past 2000Kbits. (I have contacted Verizon numerous times regarding speed , ended recently with the replacement modem.) Thank you! I apologize in advance for anything I may have done wrong



Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24

You might want to check your stats at your NID and also consider getting Verizon out to check out the line. Your line is either heavily degraded or you're having an issue with perhaps distance of the circuit.


clikonco

join:2012-12-02
Claremont, CA

Apologies for the late reply, just finished finals Anyways may I ask for more clarification regarding why a line check would be needed? Thanks!


sicfreak91

join:2011-02-14
Darlington, MD
reply to Smith6612

Looking to get my line put back to Fast path. About a week ago my modem's 'DSL' light went off suddenly and when I finally came back up, my line was changed to interleaved. I have be testing interleaved since then, and I have decided Fast path is the way to go with my online habits.

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 7616 864
Margin (dB) 15.7 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 9.0 4.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 5.3 11.9

Thank you in advance and Happy holidays to you Smith6612!



Capnblinski

join:2006-06-30
Johnstown, PA
reply to Smith6612

I would also like to see if I can improve my connection with FastPath.
Here are my line quality stats:

Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 2112 864
Margin (dB) 24.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 33.5 18.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.4 11.8


segacorpceo

join:2011-01-14
Reedley, CA
reply to Smith6612

If I switch to fastpath will my line hold at its current sync rate? Here are my stats.
DSL Status
VPI:0
VCI:35
DSL Mode Setting:Auto
DSL Negotiated Mode:G.DMT
Connection Status:ShowTime
Speed (down/up):2528 / 768 Kbps
ATM QoS class:UBR
Output Power (Downstream/Upstream):11.9 / 18.3 dBm
Attainable Rate (Downstream/Upstream):3648 / 876 Kbps
HEC Errors (Downstream/Upstream):0 / 0
OCD Errors (Downstream/Upstream):0 / 0
LCD Errors (Downstream/Upstream):0 / 0
SNR Margin (Downstream/Upstream):11.4 / 9.0 dB
Attenuation (Downstream/Upstream):63.5 / 31.5 dB



Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
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@sicfreak91: You're good to go for FastPath. If you can snag ADSL2+ from Verizon you can get additional speed as well. 15Mbps shouldn't be out of the ballpark.

@Capnblinski: Get the link kicked to 3-5Mbps and you should still be fine for FastPath.

@segacorpceo: You can probably hang onto it however due to distance, I would recommend sticking with Interleaved, if you'd like to maintain speeds. FastPath will cause your line to drop more often if it's applied and you're having issues maintaining sync. You could try some tests at your NID to see if the statistics are any better there, but likely you'll need to get the upload speed dropped a small amount to 640, and the downstream dropped to 2112 if it's still dropping at 2528 with the lower upload.



user249

@verizon.net

Hello,
I switched to fastpath before about a year ago, but for some reason it switched back to Interleaved. Could you switch me to fastpath? Much appreciated.

Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1184 448
Margin (dB) 24.0 23.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 49.5 29.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.2 11.8



TwilghtSpark

join:2013-05-07
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to Smith6612

This seems interesting. My ping was always a lot higher than other people who lived nearby, I wonder if this is the issue. Although my internet is pretty slow and crappy ( but cheap! ).

Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1504 448
Margin (dB) 10.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 63.5 31.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 15.2 11.9



Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Frontier Communi..

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said by TwilghtSpark:

This seems interesting. My ping was always a lot higher than other people who lived nearby, I wonder if this is the issue. Although my internet is pretty slow and crappy ( but cheap! ).

Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1504 448
Margin (dB) 10.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 63.5 31.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 15.2 11.9

You could give it a try, but I wouldn't shoot for it with that line. You're running slightly below 1.5Mbps due to the length of the line.

@user249: Register an account here at DSLReports and ask for it in the Verizon Direct forum. Someone should be able to help you get the speed back.


glnz

join:2006-11-26
New York, NY
reply to Smith6612

Smith - no hurry here but curious. Two questions.

1) I still have the HSI Field Ping test on my computer, and it shows the following stats. Things are good, but curious whether I should ask Vz to push the speeds a bit higher.

Downstream Upstream
Relative Capacity 40 74
Noise Margin 17.1 18.3
Transmit Signal Power 6.8 12.2
Attenuation 15.8 16.8
Fast Channel Bit Rate 7840 863 (in use)
Fast Max Attainable BR 19481 1155 (in use)
Interleaved Bit Rate - - (not in use)
Intr Max Attainable BR - - (not in use)

By the way, things are really good this morning (above). My downstream noise margin is frequently at 15.0.

2) I'm pretty sure I am indeed on Fast Path because says so above, Speedtest.net shows ping to the best nearest server at 10ms, and traceroute tests show the ping to the nearest link after the router (the CO?) at 9ms. But my router has a different opinion (some stats below). Is my router wrong? (Actiontec GT784WN) --

ATM QoS class: UBR
Near End CRC Errors Interleave: 1543
Near End CRC Errors Fastpath : N/A
Far End CRC Errors Interleave : 5
Far End CRC Errors Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Near End CRC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Near End CRC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Far End CRC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Far End CRC Fastpath : N/A
Near End RS FEC Interleave : 0
Near End RS FEC Fastpath : N/A
Far End RS FEC Interleave : 0
Far End RS FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Near End FEC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Near End FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Far End FEC Interleave : 0
30 Minute Far End FEC Fastpath : N/A
30 Minute Discarded Packets Downstream : 0
30 Minute Discarded Packets Upstream : 0
SNR Downstream : 17 dB
SNR Upstream : 16 dB
Attenuation Downstream : 29 dB
Attenuation Upstream : 16 dB
Power Downstream 8.9 dBm
Power Upstream 12.1 dBm

Thanks, Smith.



tim_k
Buttons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, Kasey
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join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
kudos:37
reply to Smith6612

If you want higher speeds you won't be able to have fastpath. 7M is max for that.



glnz

join:2006-11-26
New York, NY

Tim_K: Thanks for info, and always nice to see your name! Interleaved felt a bit sluggish when I had it (only briefly thanks to you), so I'll stick with Fast Path.

Expand your moderator at work


jasonbay13

@verizon.net
reply to Smith6612

[Interleave/Fastpath] Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

i have an old westell 6100 and is giving me the stats below. would getting a new modem help the margin any? if so, by how much and what would you go for/stay away from.

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 2528 640
Margin (dB) 19.0 19.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 48.5 31.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.4 11.8


Dave5020

join:2013-09-02
reply to Smith6612

Can I switch to fast path ?
Edit: Also can I get any higher speed than 1.5?
Transceiver Revision 3.3.6.10.0.1
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_2plus
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1496 445
Margin (dB) 6.1 15.3
Line Attenuation (dB) 64.7 38.1
Transmit Power (dBm) 15.9 12.1



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24

Not with that line unfortunately. It's already pretty long and is out of sync.


garylaw

join:2003-12-19
Georgetown, TX

1 edit
reply to Smith6612



Edit : Tim K fixed it for me