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Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

Heres my stats. Sorry im using an ActionTec modem so Im gonna have to manually type these.

DSL Mode Setting: MMODE
DSL Negotiated Mode: G.DMT
Connection Status: Showtime
Speed (down/up): 3360/864
SNR Margin (Downstream/Upstream): 18/9
Attenuation (Downstream/Upstream): 23/33

The upload occasionally syncs at 832 instead. I assume that isnt good...11.8k from CO accd to acedsl.

The upstream syncing improperly is because of the upstream margin. If anything it looks as though you're less than 11.8k from your exchange, it looks like something may just be adding noise to the upstream as the downstream has a good margin (18dB on the downstream at your speed is very good! Shows you're close to the exchange). Before you ask for FastPath, I'd try cleaning up your line a bit to see if you can get the upstream path margin a bit higher. If not, you can still request it but your upstream sync will lower slightly.

Thanks.

Got switched very quickly and my first hop pings have dropped from 25 ms to under 10 ms. Hope this helps as I'm on VPN all the time.

You're welcome. Enjoy it!

Fastpath was recommended by a friend to possibly combat my gaming lag issues. I thought I would ask here before spending a bunch of time on the telephone. Thanks for any assistance that you can give.

Transceiver Statistics

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1792 448
Margin (dB) 16.0 20.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 49.5 30.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 13.0 11.8

Stats are plenty strong enough for it. Don't waste time on the phone hoping you get someone that actually knows what it is. Go post the request in the Verizon Direct forum.

Thanks. Done.

I did not read through every post in the 1st forum, but from what I skimmed through most everyone seemed pleased with the results of switching.

How often does someone make the switch to fastpath and regret it?

Haven't seen one yet.

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 17.2 14.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 30.0 16.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.8 12.1

I am on interleave, can I handle this Fastpath?

Margins are good, go ahead and request FastPath

Sorry, this might be a dumb question but I am new to this. How do I find out my line stats?

This is dependant on your modem that you're using. For most Westells, it's »192.168.1.1/transtat.htm or you go to System Monitors/Advanced Monitors/Transceiver stats and get the stats there. I think the ActionTecs are laid out the same way as going to System Monitors and such, but since I don't have any knowledge on them I don't know where to find them besides searching.

I just joined the site and this topic caught my eye. Do you think I could move to FastPath?

Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 7616 864
Margin (dB) 14.0 8.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 10.0 7.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 10.8 11.9

thanx

Also wondering where I would ask for this to be done since you say its easier and fast to ask on here. Thanks again

Oooohhhh!!! 7.1 and good stats to boot! By all means, go for Fastpath. The US Margin is low, but I don't think it will be an issue. The best place to request it is in the Verizon Direct forum on this site.

Nice sync you have there . As Jodo stated, FastPath is doable on that line so go ahead and ask for it in the V* direct forum.

Just moved into Verizon area, would I qualify for fastpath?

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 768
Margin (dB) 16.0 9.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.0 22.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.4 11.9

You would quality for it, however your upstream sync is not synced properly, and the noise margin is too low on the upstream. I would get the line cleaned up a little so that the upstream syncs at 864kbps, and the margin is a bit higher than 9 as well if possible. Once you do this, you're all set to go.

Just try a reboot first.

Transceiver Revision: 7.1.254
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT-Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 832
Margin (db) 8.5 12.0
Line Attenuation (db) 53.0 18.5
Transmit Power (db/Hz) 15.0 11.0

Do I qualify for fastpath?

Your margin on the downstream is a bit low. The upstream sync is off on 32kbps, but yet it looks like your downstream attenuation is higher than it should be. I think you might be able to quality for FastPath once the line is cleaned up if it is in fact a little noisy on the DSL side. A NID test or using another jack close to the NID using the rounded cable the modem came with might show some better stats.

Woh, hold on there with the terminology, wantta explain to me what those things are?

OK. It's pretty simple to understand. Your Sync rate is measured in Kilobits per second, and proper sync rate should be 3360 on the downstream or download side of the modem, and upstream or upload sync should be 864kbps.

Line mode is what kind of ADSL/mode your line is on. G.DMT is Verizon standard, however dependant on area, ADSL2+ and other line modes can be used.

Margin is the measure of DSL signal to your line noise. Your modem can detect this based on the amount of errors that come into the modem. Most of these errors are not noticable or detectable until the line margin gets very, very low. The margin you don't want to be near is 6dB as it shows you might disconnect if the line varies, but 10dB and above is a good margin to maintain.

Line attenuation is how much the DSL signal is weakened by factors such as wire length, old, degraded, and/or low gauge wire, wether there's twisted cable available (twisted pair cable has less noise on it), and of course the things around you. Think of attenuation as turning down the volume on a TV. As more attenuation is added, the quieter the signal is and the harder it is for the modem to hear the DSLAM, and the harder it is for the modem to transmit back to the DSLAM, and the more attenuation there is on a line, the harder the equipment has to work to try to maintain sync, such as increasing the line power.

The transmit power is simply how much energy is getting sent through to the line.

Am I good to go for fast Path?

Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3354 861
Margin (dB) 21.0 10.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 33.5 14.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.2 12.3

Yes sir.

Ok my next ? is where do I request for fastpath? Sorry for being a noob

»Verizon Direct

How do I know if I can get 7mb?

Thanks for everything

James

Should I switch to interleave??

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d19d
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_re-adsl
Data Path FAST

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 562 155
Margin (dB) 7.3 24.5
Line Attenuation (dB) 75.0 37.3
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.2 10.2

Thanks Erik

You already have FastPath. However your line stats are terrible. I would see if you can clean up your phone line quite a bit, as your attenuation is way too high on the downstream (shows you're getting DSL past it's operating attenuation for all of Verizon's plans), but dispite the high attenuation on the upstream, it suggests that the line is just being attenuated nad noised up a lot as that certainly has a nice noise margin.

Start a topic some place on this forum and we can help you try to improve those stats before you take the jump to Interleaved.