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reply to Smith6612

Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2

You can take both FastPath and 7.1Mbps speeds on that line

And GRrrrrr, your downstream margin seems fine. Your modem isn't reporting any other stats besides the margin and the attenuation for the downstream, but I say it should be good to go.

reply to Smith6612
Here's my data, am I good for fast path?

Transceiver Statistics
Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d19d
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_G.dmt
Data Path INTERLEAVED

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 832
Margin (dB) 18.6 15.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 25.0 11.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 8.0 12.2

Thanks for help

You're good to go for FastPath.

reply to Smith6612
Its not fast path its called fast packet ...... at the beginning incompetent phone tech's could not comprehend packet and started calling it path.

Switching to interleaved will help if your a bit outside the requirements of the line but will not help if there is an actual problem on the line that needs to be addressed ior you simply dont qualify for the speed package your at because of distance or cable make-up. Its not the dream fix everyone is hoping for.

Some techs will switch you to interleaved as a short term solution to get you off the phone but over time the line can degrade and your back where you started.

Ping times will increase but if you have a stable connection with slightly higher ping times you wont even notice the difference. Your talking about mili seconds and I seriously doubt a human can detect the difference between 30ms and 60ms.

reply to Smith6612
smith6621 your telling people they qualify for speed packages you know nothing about. Just because a line test good at 3megs does not mean it will work at 7megs. Nothing read from the modem gives any clue about cable makeup. Its distance related. not okey to tell people, your test look good at 3megs and your fine.

Unless do you work for mcow?

3 megs works fine up too about 10k ft on a good line with little to no 26g cable. The more 26g cable the more the distance for 3 megs decreases. 7megs works up to about 5k ft depending again on 26g cable.

People think if they get a higher speed package that will improve ping times and make them better gamers. Doubtful.
again your talking about miliseconds if you think you need a 20ms advantage or even a 60ms over your oponent, your a newb.

It's typically not too hard to determine if they qualify for a package or not. I take their line stats, look at the attenuation and margins, and the transmit power and decide if they may have some room for it. Typically, I say that they can go to another package, say from 3Mbps to 7.1Mbps if the margin is 18dB or above, and the attenuation is 30 or below, ADSL2+ I'll push attenuation up slightly higher. If I see that something else may affect the line, I wouldn't even state getting the speed boost or changing to something else in the first place. If I know the user's line won't handle things the greatest, I always state why and state that they can move to Fast Packet, at the expense of some possible sync rate rduction.

Also, I've always heard that 7,000ft was the cutoff for 7.1Mbps service, and that 10,000-12,000ft was the cutoff for 3Mbps service, and any more up to 18,000+ feet is the end of 768kbps service. Sure, I can't tell wire gauge or type by looking at the modem stats, but I can at least give a good idea on how far they are, and what they should be able to hold. If they can't hold it, they can either have the sync rate slightly reduced, or go back to how things were before. As for lag times on Interleaved vs. Fast Packet, if you play a lot of shooters on a fact PC, you'll certainly notice the difference between the two.

reply to Smith6612
Hi there. I'm new to this fastpath and Interleave stuff, but I've had Verizon DSL for about 3 years and I seem to get high latency quite a bit. I swear the connection only works like it should about %40 of the time. A buddy of mine that lives down the road has the same problems, as we often play online games together and lag at the same time. I'll post my trans stats and see if there is anything I can do. Thanks!

Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 864 160
Margin (dB) 16.5 31.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 38.5 28.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 4.1 11.7

You're good to go for FastPath! Let your buddy know if his margins are 10 or above that he should be good to go as well. The quickest way to get FastPath would be to register at this site and use the Verizon Direct forum. Many people here have found that to be the best way, but phone support will be able to help you as well.

reply to Smith6612
Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved

Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 9.5 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 46.0 27.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 6.7 11.8

I dont know much about internet, but im a gamer, and i want to know if i can get fast path

Margins are a bit on the low side for FastPath, but it should be doable.

reply to Smith6612
How do i go about doing it.

reply to Smith6612
how do i go about doing this?

reply to Jodokast96
How do i do this?

reply to wafizarudin
The NID test? Basically you need to locate the demarcation point from the wire that comes from the pole or street to the wiring in your home. It's typically a grey box on the outside of your home or in the basement. Inside of that box, there is a test jack in which you can use to plug the modem into. Plug the modem into that jack, and power it on and post up the line statistics again. It'd be convenient to borrow a laptop for a few minutes if you don't have one.

For switching to FastPath, you can visit the Verizon Direct forum at this site and let them know that you want to move to FastPath. Do the NID test first as Jodokast suggested to see if we can get some more margin on the line before asking.

As is, it will most likely be fine. But if we can get things a little higher, there will be no doubt. One little thing that may help is if you are using a standard, flat phone cord, try finding the rounded one that should have shipped with your modem and use that. It doesn't mean an automatic improvement will happen, but it is a better cable, and it can't hurt any.

Ok, you guys are talking about the demark box right? I have a wire that comes out of that and goes to a box than to my modem, all the wires that im using came from verizon, all the wires only have 2 in them. I have a stand alone setup from my modem i have the wires that come from verizon strait to my computer.

We're talking about one of these boxes. Since you said there's a box, I assume this is it.

Fastpath?

Transceiver Revision: 4.2.0.11
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 800
Margin (dB) 5.0 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 40.0 25.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 11.3 11.9