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pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

How Bad Is It?

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Of course Apple and AT&T could have officially told you this weeks ago and stopped the fanbase hemorrhaging ...
Are sales of the iPhone 3G tanking?
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

said by pnh102:

quote:
Of course Apple and AT&T could have officially told you this weeks ago and stopped the fanbase hemorrhaging ...
Are sales of the iPhone 3G tanking?
If so its news to me. Everything I have read/heard indicates just the opposite.
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
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huntml

join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ

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From what I've seen in places like HoFo there's a fair amount of discontent among experienced data-phone users, those who have come to iPhone from smartphone platforms.

Among the data-phone newbs who seem to be the majority of iPhone users, not so much complaining, because they don't really have a base of experience to assess its performance on the network.

Then, too, though, even among ATTM data vets, people who have moved to iPhone from a smartphone platform, there's some considerable tendency to affix blame more on ATTM than on Apple, or at least to split it between the two. It's an open secret, really, that ATTM's 3g network is spottier than Swiss cheese, 'more bars in more places' adverts notwithstanding, so a lot of people have seem to have come to the (perverse?) conclusion that the iPhone has done us all a favor by exposing ATTM's network weaknesses and putting them on the spot to improve their network.



mocycler
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Naperville, IL
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reply to pnh102
It's the usual BBR "big business sucks" routine. This website is great for the forums and community spirit, but they have ZERO credibility as a news source.

Somehow they think an editorial with a few links tossed in is "journalism". Meanwhile, there is a wait list to get an iPhone and Apple/AT&T competitors are desperate to come up with something that is even close.

mocycler



fancydancer
Perception is reality
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join:2002-08-28
Springfield, IL

reply to pnh102

said by pnh102:

quote:
Of course Apple and AT&T could have officially told you this weeks ago and stopped the fanbase hemorrhaging ...
Are sales of the iPhone 3G tanking?
I think he means the undying loyalty, not necessarily the customer base, just a guess.
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huntml

join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to mocycler

said by mocycler:

Somehow they think an editorial with a few links tossed in is "journalism". Meanwhile, there is a wait list to get an iPhone and Apple/AT&T competitors are desperate to come up with something that is even close.

mocycler
Your statement is accurate as far as it goes, but you are neglecting all the complaints about iPhone 3g RF section performance and other issues that have been pretty widely reported in the media and by actual users of the device, some of which have been acknowledged, if vaguely and with some mutual finger-pointing thrown in, by both ATTM and Apple spokespeople.

Given this context this sort of 'on background'-based story gains a bit more credibility than it otherwise might, I think.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

reply to fancydancer

said by fancydancer:

said by pnh102:

quote:
Of course Apple and AT&T could have officially told you this weeks ago and stopped the fanbase hemorrhaging ...
Are sales of the iPhone 3G tanking?
I think he means the undying loyalty, not necessarily the customer base, just a guess.
Even thats not true however. The diehard fans are the ones who swear "its a firmware issue" that will be easily fixed. The bottom line is that there is absolutely no "hemorrhaging" going on in any way; not in sales, not in support, and not in general. Sure, people are complaining in forums like these about the 3G issue, but thats where it ends. As mentioned by another poster, its still fairly hard to get an iphone and all stores still advise you arrive at 7am the day of a shipment to guarantee one. Heck, the Apple store here in NYC was giving out vouchers last week so that people waiting in line the next day would be allowed the chance to purchase one. This is just typical BBR propaganda folks, dont read what you believe here.
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
-Ronald Reagan-

Whereismykit

join:2002-05-15
Norcross, GA

said by wifi4milez:

Even thats not true however. The diehard fans are the ones who swear "its a firmware issue" that will be easily fixed. The bottom line is that there is its still fairly hard to get an iphone and all stores still advise you arrive at 7am the day of a shipment to guarantee one. Heck, the Apple store here in NYC was giving out vouchers last week so that people waiting in line the next day
Its only hard to get an Iphone from the AT&T stores. Apple stores keep them in stock.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

said by Whereismykit:

said by wifi4milez:

Even thats not true however. The diehard fans are the ones who swear "its a firmware issue" that will be easily fixed. The bottom line is that there is its still fairly hard to get an iphone and all stores still advise you arrive at 7am the day of a shipment to guarantee one. Heck, the Apple store here in NYC was giving out vouchers last week so that people waiting in line the next day
Its only hard to get an Iphone from the AT&T stores. Apple stores keep them in stock.
Not true. The example I gave about getting vouchers was regarding the flagship Apple store at 57th Street and 5th Avenue (in New York City)!
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
-Ronald Reagan-

Strogonowski

join:2007-08-15
Lake Zurich, IL

Not so in Chicago suburbs. In and out in 15 min, Apple store or AT&T. And Best Buy is starting to sell iPhones in a week or two.


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