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Snohomish, WA | Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? so far it looks great to me (just skimmed it).
The only thing I'd like them to add to the whole plan is some sort of offical useage meter (not that I'm ever near the cap, just want to know what THEY see). | |
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sturmvogel
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| I agree with the disclosure of the cap.
I do not agree with the lack of a trustworthy meter and the many other loopholes in the one sided contract in which CC could disconnect a user for whatever reason they want.
A step forward ? Yes.
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by sturmvogel  :I agree with the disclosure of the cap. ... I voted No but I agree that it's a step toward better disclosure, and if you're going to have a cap, disclosure is one necessary element.
said by sturmvogel :A step forward ? Yes. I think that's ultimately up to Comcast and how well they behave. Time will tell.
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Hercules, CA | I agree with it! 
No problem here. | |
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Nerdtalker
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| Even though satisfaction is split roughly 50-50 right now, I think that the majority of the changes largely make sense, or were already in place before they were officially recorded in this AUP refresh.
Honestly, the 250GB cap is nothing new. It always existed, now they're just being upfront about it. I disagree with it just as much as I did before, but I appreciate the transparency of what they're trying to do here by finally being upfront about this and not imposing a much more ominous glass cap.
I haven't perused the other changes, but there is just so much nonsense in the AUP which nobody ever takes note of (when's the last time you heard somebody get an abuse email because of running a server?) that I really don't care.
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i do not have comcast so i do not care?> | |
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CableTool
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by Anonymous_ :were is i do not have comcast so i do not care?> Uh.. that option isnt there because this is the Comcast forum.
There is an option to opt out of the poll however. Its called "NEXT THREAD"
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Cabal
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Cabal
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by i1me2ao :comcast high speed is so fast you can reach cap in no time. i guess that will be new commercial.. When they increase the speed limits on the highway, does it mean you drive longer to work?
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TEXAS | Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? huh?? | |
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Rob
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| said by i1me2ao :comcast high speed is so fast you can reach cap in no time. i guess that will be new commercial.. Faster speed =! reach caps faster. | |
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bondo
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| I have no problems with the cap. But they shouldn't suspend your account if you go over 250, they should just throttle it down so you can at least use it. They should also let you see exactly where you stand on your bandwidth usage for the month at all times. | |
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sturmvogel
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by bondo :
I have no problems with the cap. But they shouldn't suspend your account if you go over 250, they should just throttle it down so you can at least use it. They should also let you see exactly where you stand on your bandwidth usage for the month at all times.
You speak common sense and courtesy. Powers that be will disagree, as the AUP seems to imply.
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pianotech
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| I agree that the cap has always been in place; they're just being open about it now.
I'm sure I don't even come remotely close. I think though that they should give users who do go over the option of paying for the extra usage instead of suspending them.
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| I have a real problem with the apparent Network Neutrality issue looming with Comcast limiting my DirecTV VOD downloads by setting such a low cap.
DirecTV's fledgling VOD (which delivers content thru the subscriber's broadband connection, be it Comcast or Verizon or AT&T or cable or DSL) is being harmed by Comcast's decision, since the Hi-Def content IS quite large. I've seen estimates of 5GB per hour of content, so even an hour of HD programing downloaded per evening would put the subscriber in violation. ONE hour of programming per evening is NOT a lot.
This is NOT BitTorrent, nor warez, nor usenet binaries . . . this is perfectly legal usage that will NEVER get past the "oddity" stage of acceptance due to industry acceptance of such low caps as instituted by Comcast, with many cable & DSL services pulling a "me, too" and setting similar caps.
I also have a problem with not having a tool readily available on Comcast's site to access individual subscriber usage. They're gonna set a cap, then cut you off based on "their" measurement but not let you see it? How is THAT better than the previous, much hated "invisible" cap? It's just a different type of invisibility . . . the Comcast "Three-card-Monte"
I can't help but think that these cap decisions by Comcast were made long ago to answer competitor roll-outs of competing television content.
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| I think it's a step in the right direction and 250GB/month is generous. I believe they need to agree to review and raise the caps on a regular basis however, along with providing a reliable meter for a customer to gauge their usage.
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| Even though they are saying 250 gigs to the public, I would be curious if the real # is higher (say 260 - 280 gigs) to cover discrepancies, overhead, etc.
It's kind of like when you receive a bill saying pay us by this date or we'll cut you off, and a few days, passed the cut off date, your service is still working. | |
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usapatriot
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Hialeah, FL | No, I do not.
I will never get Comcast. | |
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TKJunkMail
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by usapatriot :No, I do not. I will never get Comcast. Then why are you here in the Comcast forum? | |
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sturmvogel
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by TKJunkMail :said by usapatriot :No, I do not. I will never get Comcast. Then why are you here in the Comcast forum? Maybe because he was considering getting CC ? Maybe he worries about a bad precedent being set ? Maybe he likes to be informed about important Internet trends, as in one of the largest ISP's making an important change of policy ?
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EG
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1 edit | Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? Hi sturm. Sometimes I wonder what really is the basis of your incessant anti Comcast motivation and drive here lately ?  | |
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sturmvogel
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2 edits | Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by EG :Hi sturm. Sometimes I wonder what really is the basis of your incessant anti Comcast motivation and drive here lately ? CC banning one of my locations for 12 months due to bandwidth "abuse". Upset customers tend to have a long memory.
The desire for us, the users, getting a clear contract and the service we paid for.
Competition at the local level in the Internet access market so that customers have a choice of internet providers and providers have an incentive to offer good valuable service to customers.
Good enough for you ?
There are about 6 strong CC supporters here that incessantly support CC no matter how wrong they are sometimes in my opinion. I believe it is fair that upset customers should also have a voice. Even by CC's own admission, there are at least 14 thousand people that have been dropped, banned or threatened. Should they not have someone representing their point of view ?
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1 edit | Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? said by sturmvogel :CC banning one of my locations for 12 months due to bandwidth "abuse". Upset customers tend to have a long memory. Was it justified ? What was the level of this alleged abuse ? The desire for us, the users, getting a clear contract and the service we paid for. Can't argue that !Competition at the local level in the Internet access market so that customers have a choice of internet providers and providers have an incentive to offer good valuable service to customers. Nor that.Good enough for you ? Is that a rhetorical question ?  There are about 6 strong CC supporters here that incessantly support CC no matter how wrong they are sometimes in my opinion.The phrase "In my opinion" seems to be a popular disclaimer. I believe it is fair that upset customers should also have a voice. Even by CC's own admission, there are at least 14 thousand people that have been dropped, banned or threatened. Should they not have someone representing their point of view ? So you have elected yourself to single handedly perform this monumental and noble task ? | |
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by usapatriot :No, I do not. I will never get Comcast. Then why are you here in the Comcast forum? The active topic is probably showing up in the header area.
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| Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ? I sure am.
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Redwood Valley, CA | Whether I agree with it or not in immaterial, it's our only choice for broadband out here so we're stuck with them and their AUP, for better or for worse | |
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