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Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ?
I have a real problem with the apparent Network Neutrality issue looming with Comcast limiting my DirecTV VOD downloads by setting such a low cap.
DirecTV's fledgling VOD (which delivers content thru the subscriber's broadband connection, be it Comcast or Verizon or AT&T or cable or DSL) is being harmed by Comcast's decision, since the Hi-Def content IS quite large. I've seen estimates of 5GB per hour of content, so even an hour of HD programing downloaded per evening would put the subscriber in violation. ONE hour of programming per evening is NOT a lot.
This is NOT BitTorrent, nor warez, nor usenet binaries . . . this is perfectly legal usage that will NEVER get past the "oddity" stage of acceptance due to industry acceptance of such low caps as instituted by Comcast, with many cable & DSL services pulling a "me, too" and setting similar caps.
I also have a problem with not having a tool readily available on Comcast's site to access individual subscriber usage. They're gonna set a cap, then cut you off based on "their" measurement but not let you see it? How is THAT better than the previous, much hated "invisible" cap? It's just a different type of invisibility . . . the Comcast "Three-card-Monte"
I can't help but think that these cap decisions by Comcast were made long ago to answer competitor roll-outs of competing television content.
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I Voted H**l no.Never fully agreed to the first one...
I know that the 'Caps' and reason for it, is really a marketing strategy of 'Pay More for less'. Not to mention cripple any competition to what Comcast may have to offer. They purposely set a seemingly high amount as to not be too obvious as to their (Comcast's) original intentions. You should know as well as any other that at the rate technology & internet usage is going... a 250 GB cap wont be squat in the not so distant future.
I never used much nor do i p2p. I don't condone those that do 'abuse' bandwidth. But I care not to be one that pays the bleeping price for it either.
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axelrose
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I remember when I metered a total of 32 GB of data one month and was worried I may have done too much, abused the service.
Now it turns out people are whining about a 250GB cap? 
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Matt
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I think it's a step in the right direction and 250GB/month is generous. I believe they need to agree to review and raise the caps on a regular basis however, along with providing a reliable meter for a customer to gauge their usage.
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cscottm
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Wil the alloted amount be higher then 250 gigs?
Even though they are saying 250 gigs to the public, I would be curious if the real # is higher (say 260 - 280 gigs) to cover discrepancies, overhead, etc.
It's kind of like when you receive a bill saying pay us by this date or we'll cut you off, and a few days, passed the cut off date, your service is still working. |
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usapatriot
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Re: [POLL] Do you agree with Comcast's new AUP ?
No, I do not.
I will never get Comcast. |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by usapatriot  :No, I do not. I will never get Comcast. Then why are you here in the Comcast forum? |
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sturmvogel
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by usapatriot :No, I do not. I will never get Comcast. Then why are you here in the Comcast forum? Maybe because he was considering getting CC ? Maybe he worries about a bad precedent being set ? Maybe he likes to be informed about important Internet trends, as in one of the largest ISP's making an important change of policy ?
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EG
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1 edit | Hi sturm. Sometimes I wonder what really is the basis of your incessant anti Comcast motivation and drive here lately ?  |
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2 edits | said by EG :Hi sturm. Sometimes I wonder what really is the basis of your incessant anti Comcast motivation and drive here lately ? CC banning one of my locations for 12 months due to bandwidth "abuse". Upset customers tend to have a long memory.
The desire for us, the users, getting a clear contract and the service we paid for.
Competition at the local level in the Internet access market so that customers have a choice of internet providers and providers have an incentive to offer good valuable service to customers.
Good enough for you ?
There are about 6 strong CC supporters here that incessantly support CC no matter how wrong they are sometimes in my opinion. I believe it is fair that upset customers should also have a voice. Even by CC's own admission, there are at least 14 thousand people that have been dropped, banned or threatened. Should they not have someone representing their point of view ?
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said by TKJunkMail :said by usapatriot :No, I do not. I will never get Comcast. Then why are you here in the Comcast forum? The active topic is probably showing up in the header area.
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said by sturmvogel :CC banning one of my locations for 12 months due to bandwidth "abuse". Upset customers tend to have a long memory. Was it justified ? What was the level of this alleged abuse ? The desire for us, the users, getting a clear contract and the service we paid for. Can't argue that !Competition at the local level in the Internet access market so that customers have a choice of internet providers and providers have an incentive to offer good valuable service to customers. Nor that.Good enough for you ? Is that a rhetorical question ?  There are about 6 strong CC supporters here that incessantly support CC no matter how wrong they are sometimes in my opinion.The phrase "In my opinion" seems to be a popular disclaimer. I believe it is fair that upset customers should also have a voice. Even by CC's own admission, there are at least 14 thousand people that have been dropped, banned or threatened. Should they not have someone representing their point of view ? So you have elected yourself to single handedly perform this monumental and noble task ?  |
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MysticGogeta
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Shockingly in one year I haven't even reached 250 GB. I used my connection as much as I need it and barely pass 15 GB max a month.
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dadkins
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| said by MysticGogeta :Shockingly in one year I haven't even reached 250 GB. I used my connection as much as I need it and barely pass 15 GB max a month. Damn dude! You're killing Comcast!
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said by MysticGogeta :Shockingly in one year I haven't even reached 250 GB. I used my connection as much as I need it and barely pass 15 GB max a month. According to Comcast, you use your Internet service more than 500% more than their average customer.
(Be careful not to step in that pile of PR over there...)
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I sure am.
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said by funchords :said by MysticGogeta :Shockingly in one year I haven't even reached 250 GB. I used my connection as much as I need it and barely pass 15 GB max a month. According to Comcast, you use your Internet service more than 500% more than their average customer. The average Comcast subscriber doesn't know DOCSIS from a boat dock.
The average Comcast subscriber is not a DSLr member. I'd even go as far as to say that not a single DLSr member fits the definition of an "average subscriber". |
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RR Conductor
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Whether I agree with it or not in immaterial, it's our only choice for broadband out here so we're stuck with them and their AUP, for better or for worse |
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toddg03
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Its a terrible policy. These terms were not made upfront when you ordered the service and now they are changing them. Everyone knows the hassle in trying to change your cable service and in most places only one provider is available. So like most issued with a cable company... your screwed...either take it or move. |
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said by Cabal :said by i1me2ao :comcast high speed is so fast you can reach cap in no time. i guess that will be new commercial.. When they increase the speed limits on the highway, does it mean you drive longer to work? Maybe not, but it certainly allows you to take a job farther from work. |
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