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Doctor Olds
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AT&T needs more bitch slaps from the US Court system.

Got to love that Judge. Yo AT&T, your frail attempt to erode our rights was busted, now just wait until we get wiretap immunity overturned. Jail Time. Can't touch this....
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hottboiinnc
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Can' the immunity be over turned? I thought once it was signed by the President that nobody else can change it.


EPS

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reply to Doctor Olds
Uh... how is at&t supposed to get jail time? Will you take the company's articles of incorporation and lock them in a cell?



Doctor Olds
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said by hottboiinnc:

Can' the immunity be over turned? I thought once it was signed by the President that nobody else can change it.
As I understand it Congress has passed retroactive Laws, so it is possible......
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Doctor Olds
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said by EPS:

Uh... how is at&t supposed to get jail time? Will you take the company's articles of incorporation and lock them in a cell?
All the board members including the CEO, CFO, and Chairman plus their lobbyists.
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cdru
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In order to do that, the non-immunity would have to be retroactive to the retroactive immunity. If such a thing would ever make it's way through Congress and get signed by a president, it would be bad. As soon as the ink dried on the signature the fabric of the space-time continuum would tear and the entire universe would collapse into itself into a massive black hole. Congress is just looking out for our best interests and so probably would never pass such a thing.



cdru
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said by EPS:

Uh... how is at&t supposed to get jail time? Will you take the company's articles of incorporation and lock them in a cell?
No, imprisoning the articles incorporation letters isn't going to happen, but going after management might be a possiblity.

Do a google search for "Responsible Corporate Officer Doctrine". In some areas, "should have known better but didn't" isn't a legal defense. For instance, here an instance where a CEO of a company was fined and jailed for building code violations actually committed by others within the company.

The middle and lower employees that did the actual crime that the immunity absolved them of probably wouldn't have had anything to worry about legally as they would end up protected by the corporate veil. But officers don't always get off the hook.

EPS

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Well at&t Inc. would still exist and wouldn't have been imprisoned, it would just suffer a devastating fall in stock price and would need a new board, is all. I get what you mean, though, I was just being silly

Not sure how you could justify locking up the lobbyists, though, unless you can prove they were stepping over legal boundaries in their lobbying.


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The Japanese do it much better. When the head guy has screwed up he jumps out a window, without a golden parachute.


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