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Xizer

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY


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 IMPORTANT: If you are planning on canceling because of caps

Consider doing this first if you're planning on getting DSL or fiber instead...

Spend one month using your connection as much as possible. Download and upload 24/7. Intentionally surpass the cap, and by a large margin. Then, when Comcast cancels your account because of this, sign up for DSL.

That way you are protesting this cap instead of just calling them up like a wimp and telling them to cancel your account, and you're getting one last month of fast speeds before having to go to slower but cap-free DSL.

inferno

join:2008-07-06
This is exactly what my friend is doing.


Johkal
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reply to Xizer
You're only proving that abusers exist and cause the rest of us grief for the actions of the minority.
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Xizer

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

said by Johkal See Profile :

You're only proving that abusers exist and cause the rest of us grief for the actions of the minority.
Using as much bandwidth as you desire is not "abuse," it's called getting value out of your purchase.

mark5019

join:2002-03-30
Atlanta, GA
reply to Johkal
prove them right that there are uncareing selfish hogs

sedu

join:2002-01-10
Freeland, MD

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reply to inferno
Your friend and others like him are childish idiots and the reason Comcast is initiating caps to begin with. Maybe Comcast should have done a little PR work before doing this with ads like "Do You Want To Share A Node With An Idiot?"


Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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Kendall, FL
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reply to Xizer
What a stupid idea. You will get banned for 12 months from Comcast. What if before the 12 months is up your DSL takes a crap and your DSL provider can't fix it? Or you have consistent problems with connectivity?
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Xizer

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY


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said by sedu See Profile :

Your friend and others like him are childish idiots and the reason Comcast is initiating caps to begin with. Maybe Comcast should have done a little PR work before doing this with ads like "Do You Want To Share A Node With An Idiot?"
I share a node with numerous heavy users in an apartment complex, including myself.

I never see less than my rated speed. Nodes going over capacity is a rare and exaggerated event and when it happens it must happen for mere minutes or maybe even less since I can never notice slower speeds.

Also, I think I can live with getting 10 Mbps instead of 15 Mbps for a few minutes every once in a while if it means no bandwidth caps

said by Rob See Profile :

What a stupid idea. You will get banned for 12 months from Comcast. What if before the 12 months is up your DSL takes a crap and your DSL provider can't fix it? Or you have consistent problems with connectivity?
That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. What, you think a DSL provider is just going to pack up one day and shut down their entire network in the middle of a 12-month period with no advance warning?


Johkal
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reply to Xizer
said by Xizer See Profile :

said by Johkal See Profile :

You're only proving that abusers exist and cause the rest of us grief for the actions of the minority.
Using as much bandwidth as you desire is not "abuse," it's called getting value out of your purchase.
So, when I buy a car that's capable of a top end of 150mph, exceeding the speed limit should be considered: "getting value out of your purchase"?
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sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

said by Johkal See Profile :

said by Xizer See Profile :

said by Johkal See Profile :

You're only proving that abusers exist and cause the rest of us grief for the actions of the minority.
Using as much bandwidth as you desire is not "abuse," it's called getting value out of your purchase.
So, when I buy a car that's capable of a top end of 150mph, exceeding the speed limit should be considered: "getting value out of your purchase"?
Yes, on real highways like the Autobahn, like Comcast likes to look like when it talks about its speeds.

We are not exceeding the speed, which is 8 Mbit/sec, we are using it. Nowhere on the freeways I see says: Speed limit 65, but you can use that only 3 hours a day.
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captain456

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reply to Xizer
Do you guys realize what the bandwidth costs are at the wholesale level? Maybe you should look into it. you are unlikely to get less than $15 per Mbit on Level 3 and ATT 2 of Comcasts biggest transit provders than that is with gigabit commitments.


Johkal
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reply to sturmvogel
Comcast services the US and the last time I looked, the Autobahn isn't in the US. Next!
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Rob
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said by sturmvogel See Profile :

Yes, on real highways like the Autobahn, like Comcast likes to look like when it talks about its speeds.

We are not exceeding the speed, which is 8 Mbit/sec, we are using it. Nowhere on the freeways I see says: Speed limit 65, but you can use that only 3 hours a day.
What I do is see is "15mph during 6AM-9AM; 2PM-5PM" and then 35mph there after in a school zone. Guess they shouldn't be allowed to "throttle" my speeds either?


sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

said by Rob See Profile :

said by sturmvogel See Profile :

Yes, on real highways like the Autobahn, like Comcast likes to look like when it talks about its speeds.

We are not exceeding the speed, which is 8 Mbit/sec, we are using it. Nowhere on the freeways I see says: Speed limit 65, but you can use that only 3 hours a day.
What I do is see is "15mph during 6AM-9AM; 2PM-5PM" and then 35mph there after in a school zone. Guess they shouldn't be allowed to "throttle" my speeds either?
Really ? On the freeway ? Cool, even better than the 40 MPH minimum speed I know about.
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sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to Johkal
said by Johkal See Profile :

Comcast services the US and the last time I looked, the Autobahn isn't in the US. Next!
Yes, those pesky Germans with their no speed limit freeway and good Internet access. Too bad for them, we should look at a good example, say Uganda, for Internet access and freeway speeds.
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sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX


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reply to Rob
said by Rob See Profile :

said by sturmvogel See Profile :

Yes, on real highways like the Autobahn, like Comcast likes to look like when it talks about its speeds.

We are not exceeding the speed, which is 8 Mbit/sec, we are using it. Nowhere on the freeways I see says: Speed limit 65, but you can use that only 3 hours a day.
What I do is see is "15mph during 6AM-9AM; 2PM-5PM" and then 35mph there after in a school zone. Guess they shouldn't be allowed to "throttle" my speeds either?
Some of us use freeways and regular roads where school zones are an exception, not a majority of the distance traveled.

Speed limit on the freeways is 55/65 with no restrictions unless road work or if you happen to drive a truck.
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Johkal
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reply to sturmvogel
Better example: Thankfully on the freeways we have times that our speeds need to be reduced via signs/info. due to conditions. Should this be followed by all to reduce the possibility of an accident or should those that feel entitled, be allowed to disregard the possible negative impact to others and do as they please?
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tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
·Comcast


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reply to Rob
Maybe it's not "them" (ComCast (just in case you were confused) but others on your node, "getting thier monies worth" or "trying to get capped" or any of the other reasons for using extreme bandwidth.
I'm not saying if you never hit full speed comcast shouldn't upgrade/split your node*.............but as we see in this thread some people believe, that having a car that goes 160, means they MUST drive that way, not on the autobahn, but in school zones, arterials etc., some just to show they can.
That also defines abuse.
* however engineering/building/ and commisioning a plant change takes far longer than it takes 10-20 users to decide to go "all out"


sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to Johkal
said by Johkal See Profile :

Better example: Thankfully on the freeways we have times that our speeds need to be reduced via signs/info. due to conditions. Should this be followed by all to reduce the possibility of an accident or should those that feel entitled, be allowed to disregard the possible negative impact to others and do as they please?
No. Those are special conditions that warrant restricted traffic flow and slower speed limits.

However, the goverment(s) move to correct those and improve the speeds. They do not create permanent rules while letting the roads fall into disrepair and ignore traffic growth. Most times.
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sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX


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reply to tshirt
said by tshirt See Profile :

Maybe it's not "them" (ComCast (just in case you were confused) but others on your node, "getting thier monies worth" or "trying to get capped" or any of the other reasons for using extreme bandwidth.
I'm not saying if you never hit full speed comcast shouldn't upgrade/split your node*.............but as we see in this thread some people believe, that having a car that goes 160, means they MUST drive that way, not on the autobahn, but in school zones, arterials etc., some just to show they can.
That also defines abuse.
* however engineering/building/ and commisioning a plant change takes far longer than it takes 10-20 users to decide to go "all out"
Really ? Did I say to drive 160 in school zone ?

I have a 8 Mbit connection I pay for. Nowhere in the contract does it say that I can use that connection at 8 Mbit only 3 hrs a day.

My car is rated at 160. Speed limit is around here 55 MPH. I can drive 55 MPH 24/7 and there will be no cop around to tell me that I am "abusing" the road driving 24/7 @ 55 MPH and I could drive 35 24/7 or 55 only 3 hrs a day. I pay a flat fee to the county to use the road (as I pay Comcast for access) and I pay for gas (as I pay electricity for my computer).
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