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jc100

join:2002-04-10
reply to moonpuppy

Re: Watch and learn...

People being jailed wrongfully without rights is no less an atrocity. See below. Proving you wrong makes these sessions all the more fun.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

People being jailed wrongfully without rights is no less an atrocity. See below. Proving you wrong makes these sessions all the more fun.
Sorry, you are the wrong one but thanks for playing.

Civilians that engage in direct hostilities are not considered protected by the Geneva Convention which the Taliban themselves are NOT following and Afghanistan did sign the treaty.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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You don't have to sign a treaty to be respected by it. Nice one though. We capture guerrilla forces and drug lords in South America who are not privvy to the treaty. It applies to everyone. It's an INTERNATIONAL agreement by ALL MAJOR countries on how to handle warfare. It applies to ALL REGARDLESS. A la we didn't take Vietnamese and lock them up as war criminals when they USED GUERILLA WARFARE to refute our attack on them. Nice one though. I like how you take a xenophobic tone. Go look up the word xenophobic.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

You don't have to sign a treaty to be respected by it. Nice one though. We capture guerrilla forces and drug lords in South America who are not privvy to the treaty. It applies to everyone. It's an INTERNATIONAL agreement by ALL MAJOR countries on how to handle warfare. It applies to ALL REGARDLESS. A la we didn't take Vietnamese and lock them up as war criminals when they USED GUERILLA WARFARE to refute our attack on them. Nice one though. I like how you take a xenophobic tone. Go look up the word xenophobic.
Wrong again there. Once you sign a treaty, you must abide by it or remounce it which Afghanistan has not done. I have already shown you it does not apply to everyone but you choose to ignore that fact because it flies in the face of your argument.

Next thing out of your feeble mind would be to condone the action of terrorists.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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Feeble mind coming from a Xenophobic biggot. Yes, go on your Christian Crusade and spread your word of hate like a regular terrorist. I know, you don't consider Christians terrorist but history does. We know, God hates gays and blacks and everyone right. Amazing isn't it. Christianity has asshates like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson (who incited we murder a leader none the less). Lest we forget these morons incite violence against minorities and gays. The church Helped the Holocaust and the Church Helped keep discrimination alive during the Civil Rights era. These same churches today preach bigotry and intolerance. So Mr. Xenohphobe, you might wish to reconsider who is feeble minded.

As per proving anything, you have NOT. The Geneva Convention is an INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AGREEMENT in which the WORLD powers are subject to and all MANKIND. WE SIGNED IT. That's what matters. It has NO BEARING on whether or not Afghanistan did as we are taking prisoners, NOT THEM. DOH, I guess you forgot that one. So we MUST adhere to it, whether or not they choose to. That said, it governs everyone. Why the HELL do you think leaders like Milsoveic (Serb leader in Bosnian War) were taken to the Hague on War crimes? Serbia NEVER agreed to the Document. Yet, it's used against leaders ALL AROUND the world to get them on War Crimes. Hence, EVERYONE must abide by it, the U.S. included and especially being a signing member. Might want to google that one. I bet you'd learn a lot. Anyway, maybe you should face that word known as reality. Next up, the train to Delusional City. Passenger aboard, moonpuppy.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

Feeble mind coming from a Xenophobic biggot. Yes, go on your Christian Crusade and spread your word of hate like a regular terrorist. I know, you don't consider Christians terrorist but history does. We know, God hates gays and blacks and everyone right. Amazing isn't it. Christianity has asshates like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson (who incited we murder a leader none the less). Lest we forget these morons incite violence against minorities and gays. The church Helped the Holocaust and the Church Helped keep discrimination alive during the Civil Rights era. These same churches today preach bigotry and intolerance. So Mr. Xenohphobe, you might wish to reconsider who is feeble minded.
You calling me a bigot is like the KKK claiming they are persecuted. Let's look at the Islamic asshats.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - President of Iran and claims the Holocaust never happened. When the Germans themselves admit they did it, there is no argument.

Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini - Another mullah from Iran who killed anyone who disagreed with him and made the West their enemy.

said by jc100:

As per proving anything, you have NOT. The Geneva Convention is an INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AGREEMENT in which the WORLD powers are subject to and all MANKIND. WE SIGNED IT. That's what matters. It has NO BEARING on whether or not Afghanistan did as we are taking prisoners, NOT THEM. DOH, I guess you forgot that one. So we MUST adhere to it, whether or not they choose to. That said, it governs everyone. Why the HELL do you think leaders like Milsoveic (Serb leader in Bosnian War) were taken to the Hague on War crimes? Serbia NEVER agreed to the Document. Yet, it's used against leaders ALL AROUND the world to get them on War Crimes. Hence, EVERYONE must abide by it, the U.S. included and especially being a signing member. Might want to google that one. I bet you'd learn a lot. Anyway, maybe you should face that word known as reality. Next up, the train to Delusional City. Passenger aboard, moonpuppy.
Actually, we are following the rules since the combatants you are talking about are not covered nor were they ever covered under the Convention.

As for Milosevic, he was taken into custody per UN action and charged with crimes against humanity (same thing the Nazis were tried and convicted under.) Serbia was under UN control and therefore, they had to power to arrest him.

Care to try again?

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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Yes, I'm calling you a BIGOT. I don't claim they were Persecuted. Maybe you NEED TO READ MORE CLOSELY. I said THEY PERSECUTED OTHERS. Just like your TERRORIST RELIGION CHRISTIANITY. Since you want to group ALL INTO one, Christianity has WAY MORE EXAMPLES OF ATROCITIES under its belt than ANY OTHER RELIGION.

6 Million Dead in Holocaust with Help of MANY CHURCHES

100s of Thousands Dead in Serbia with Christianity being the MOTTO. Christian Serbs vs Muslims and look who committed the MASS WAR CRIMES.

Lest we forget the HATRED preached by churches during Civil Rights ERA and groups like the KKK etc perpetrating such hatred.

Now we got Mega Churches who are no different than Imams. Jerry Falwell preached Hatred of Gays and Pat Robertson said we should go MURDER AND ASSASSINATE a world leader.

B) You know we took them to the HAGUE YOU MORON because it was covered under the GENEVA CONVENTION. WHAT DOCTRINE do you think gives the UN the right to go after people on CRIMES against Humanity... O i don't know, the GENEVA CONVENTION.. DOH. Do you act stupid or does it come naturally. This is the EXACT FRAMEWORK the Hague uses when TRYING PEOPLE. War crimes fall UNDER THIS DOCTRINE. Let me repeat it slowly. Not to mention, WE AGREED TO IT AND WE ARE THE ONES TAKING PRISONERS NOW. THEREFORE, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW IT.

As per the Nazis, they were tried under War Crimes BUT not the Geneva Convention. They used different laws back then. The Geneva Convention wasn't created until 1949 and NOW serves as the basis for CURRENT and Future Prosecutions. As back then, NATO DID NOT EXIST.

Who needs to try again?

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

Yes, I'm calling you a BIGOT. I don't claim they were Persecuted. Maybe you NEED TO READ MORE CLOSELY. I said THEY PERSECUTED OTHERS. Just like your TERRORIST RELIGION CHRISTIANITY. Since you want to group ALL INTO one, Christianity has WAY MORE EXAMPLES OF ATROCITIES under its belt than ANY OTHER RELIGION.
Bullshit, you are claiming only the Christians are evil totally ignoring the islamic fundamentalists. Take the blinders off.

said by jc100:

6 Million Dead in Holocaust with Help of MANY CHURCHES
Including the muslims who many think the Holocaust never happened.

said by jc100:

100s of Thousands Dead in Serbia with Christianity being the MOTTO. Christian Serbs vs Muslims and look who committed the MASS WAR CRIMES.
And look what happened to Milosovic and a few of his cronies. He was tried and unfortunately died before they could convict him.

said by jc100:

Lest we forget the HATRED preached by churches during Civil Rights ERA and groups like the KKK etc perpetrating such hatred.

Now we got Mega Churches who are no different than Imams. Jerry Falwell preached Hatred of Gays and Pat Robertson said we should go MURDER AND ASSASSINATE a world leader.
No different than state sponsored islamic churches and schools who preach the same thing. You FINALLY accepted that fact although way too late to give yourself any credibility.

said by jc100:

B) You know we took them to the HAGUE YOU MORON because it was covered under the GENEVA CONVENTION. WHAT DOCTRINE ASS HAT do you think gives the UN the right to go after people on CRIMES against Humanity... O i don't know, the GENEVA CONVENTION.. DOH. Do you act stupid or does it come naturally. This is the EXACT FRAMEWORK the Hague uses when TRYING PEOPLE. War crimes fall UNDER THIS DOCTRINE. Let me repeat it slowly.
Actually, the Hague Convention and the Geneva Conventions are separate though they do compliment one another.

As for the UN, the have control of the Hague. They Geneva Conventions belong to the Red Cross.

said by jc100:

As per the Nazis, they were tried under War Crimes BUT not the Geneva Convention. They used different laws back then. The Geneva Convention wasn't created until 1949 and NOW serves as the basis for CURRENT and Future Prosecutions.

Who needs to try again?
Actually you do since the first Geneva Conventions were drafted back in 1863 and were revised in 1949. The tribunals for the Nazis were made up of the victors of the War in Europe; USA, UK, France and the Soviet Union.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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To respond to all your crap, I am just merely pointing out that one side is NO LESS guilty than the other. I don't for once BELIEVE Terrorism in ANY FORM is good. However, Christians have ONE HELL of a tainted past, if you want to go par for par. There are no blinders. Bad behavior is BAD BEHAVIOR. Simple. You need to learn that and stop using your one sided HATE to focus on Muslims. As Christians are just as bad when you take into account history.

Likewise, there's no justifying either side, but there's no reason you need to be Xenophobic. I am taking the stance with you that RELIGION in any fanatical sense is bad. You want to BLAME MUSLIMS forgetting that Christianity is equally and MORE guilty of HUGE ATROCITIES in modern history. A Mega Church Preaching Hate is no less worse than an Imam doing it. I didn't say or claim it was any better or worse. You might try to misconstrue my words, but I never said otherwise. I am taking the tone that your bigotry is ONE SIDED. YES, It is one sided, since you ALWAYS focus on Muslims, forgetting the Christian perspective of things.

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Actually, the Hague Convention and the Geneva Conventions are separate though they do compliment one another.

As for the UN, the have control of the Hague. They Geneva Conventions belong to the Red Cross.
No, the Hague is GOVERNED by the Geneva Convention. These are the body of rules it now uses when ruling on War Crimes. Prior to this, it used whatever set of laws existed. Once again, back during the Nazi Era, Nato did not exist. There was only the Hague and a FAILED league of nations. One I guess could technically argue that the nazis met the justice from the League of Nations, though it was pretty long gone by that time. Oddly enough, the Geneva Convention was last Formalized and Ratified the same year (1949) Nato was formed. While there were prior versions, the copy that exists today was put into print in 1949, as I just stated.

So long story short. You just:

A) Admitted that Imams and Radical Church Leaders are no Different

B) Radical Christianity has a Tainted Past Similar to Radical Islam. Christianity having the worst atrocities still. Yet, both being BAD and unjustifiable.

C) The Geneva Convention Governed How we try people for war crimes, and how they are to be treated. As I said, WE SIGNED IT AND WE ARE THE ONES taking prisoners in Afghanistan. Once again, they were a recognized and formalized army under their government. Hence, they are subject to its clauses.

D) Milosevic was tried under it (Geneva Convention) and he did not sign nor did Serbia. He was NOT a formal army bearing uniforms. If you ever watch videos of the Bosnian war, there might be a national flag, but MOST soldiers were civilians taking up arms. Yet, we still afford Milosevic a trial at the Hague. I think we should do the same to the people we capture.

Give them a trial at the Hague and stop making us look like the bad guy. If we take an international approach to things, then the world can't stop looking down on us for our bad behavior such as torture and suspending habeous corpus. We claim to be a Democracy, but fail at providing those rights to people. Whether or not these people might be bad. I say you got nothing to lose by showing the world you can take the higher ground. Let the Hague deal with them and the world can then make its own mind on what they should get as punishment.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

To respond to all your crap, I am just merely pointing out that one side is NO LESS guilty than the other. I don't for once BELIEVE Terrorism in ANY FORM is good. However, Christians have ONE HELL of a tainted past, if you want to go par for par. There are no blinders. Bad behavior is BAD BEHAVIOR. Simple. You need to learn that and stop using your one sided HATE to focus on Muslims. As Christians are just as bad when you take into account history.

The above is BULLSHIT and you know it. You hardly EVER cal into question islam but you rant and rave about Christianity like you were persecuted by the Pope himself.

Face it, the topic at hand concerned Malaysia which is a government run by islam. You attempted to cast the US in the same light which FAILED miserably. If the same were the case in this country, you would be already in jail without trial. Guess what. You are still posting so you being in jail is not happening. I've been to counties where if you said the wrong thing, you "disappeared."

You = blind idiot who can't see past his own hatred of Christianity.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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The above is BULLSHIT and you know it. You hardly EVER cal into question islam but you rant and rave about Christianity like you were persecuted by the Pope himself.
I rave and rant to people like you in RESPONSE to your rave and rants on Islam. My REAL view is BOTH sides are GUILTY and need to cut the bullshit out. Yet, BOTH sides are MOSTLY good people with a FEW bad apples to taint the whole. Christianity and Islam have 1 Billion + each. I don't for one Minute believe more than 5-10 percent of either religion is extreme or bad people. The rest would rather practice and live their lives in peace. There are just a few BAD apples in every bunch. These MORONS get the air time that casts a negative shadow on the rest.

quote:

Face it, the topic at hand concerned Malaysia which is a government run by islam. You attempted to cast the US in the same light which FAILED miserably. If the same were the case in this country, you would be already in jail without trial. Guess what. You are still posting so you being in jail is not happening. I've been to counties where if you said the wrong thing, you "disappeared."
Topic at hand is does one government pose more a risk than another. An Islam government IS NO WORSE than a Dicatorship which can be found in Many South American and African Countries. Hell, LOOK AT CHINA and it's not Muslim. Speak out against the Chinese Government, and you are a dead man. It has EVERYTHING to do with freedoms, NOT RELIGION. You might turn it into a religious argument, BUT IT IS NOT. It's to do with government wanting control. Face it, you can't get over your HATRED of Islam.

You = blind idiot who can't see past his own hatred of EVERYTHING NOT ISLAM.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:


I rave and rant to people like you in RESPONSE to your rave and rants on Islam. My REAL view is BOTH sides are GUILTY and need to cut the bullshit out. Yet, BOTH sides are MOSTLY good people with a FEW bad apples to taint the whole. Christianity and Islam have 1 Billion + each. I don't for one Minute believe more than 5-10 percent of either religion is extreme or bad people. The rest would rather practice and live their lives in peach. There are just a few BAD apples in every bunch.
Your history of your posts speak for themselves and you just called yourself a liar.

said by jc100:

Topic at hand is does one government pose more a risk than another. An Islam government IS NO WORSE than a Dicatorship which can be found in Many South American and African Countries. Hell, LOOK AT CHINA and it's not Muslim. Speak out against the Chinese Government, and you are a dead man. It has EVERYTHING to do with freedoms, NOT RELIGION. You might turn it into a religious argument, BUT IT IS NOT. It's to do with government wanting control. Face it, you can't get over your HATRED of Islam.
O.k. name one South American dictatorship besides Venezuela.

If religion has nothing to do with it, why the rant against Christianity? Find a Christian theocracy that CURRENTLY tortures its citizens than I might listen you your BS but until then, keep trying.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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A) I have not called myself a liar. I have taken the Devil Advocates approach with BIGOTS like yourself. This approach is to merely reflect the STUPIDITY found within your writings and others. I just gave you my true belief, when not arguing with intellectual inadequates. There is no lying or distortion. I have chosen to play the other side of the field.

2) China Has a heavy Handed Approach to Freedom. Speak against them = Dead

North Korea Has Heavy Handed Approach - Same

Venezuela - Heavy Handed

Belarus - Great last Dicatorship in Eastern Europe

Russia - Seeing how Journalists are killed along with others for being critical of the government. According to the news just now, police picked up a critical journalist from the airport, and dropped him off with a bullet in the head on a road.

A large Majority of Africa.

As per South America, MANY of those countries are NOT free. Corruption is PERVASIVE and dictators RULED up until the late 1980s. MANY of these dictators were FUNDED and put into power by us. Noriega for one. As of now, Most are just pseudo Democracies with a SHIT TON of corruption.

So Take your head out of your ass and learn this has NOTHING to do with religion but freedoms. As for a Christian Theocracy, Modern History speaks for itself. Serbia was an Atrocity and Genocide a Decade ago that was done in the Name Of Christianity. Things don't happen all the time. Just as Muslim extremism isn't something that's been much of a problem until the last 20 years. Idiots (which you fall under) come in all shapes, religions, and ethnic backgrounds. Just look at your own ignorance in your posts.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

A) I have not called myself a liar. I have taken the Devil Advocates approach with BIGOTS like yourself. This approach is to merely reflect the STUPIDITY found within your writings and others. I just gave you my true belief, when not arguing with intellectual inadequates. There is no lying or distortion. I have chosen to play the other side of the field.

2) China Has a heavy Handed Approach to Freedom. Speak against them = Dead

North Korea Has Heavy Handed Approach - Same

Venezuela - Heavy Handed

Belarus - Great last Dicatorship in Eastern Europe

Russia - Seeing how Journalists are killed along with others for being critical of the government. According to the news just now, police picked up a critical journalist from the airport, and dropped him off with a bullet in the head on a road.

A large Majority of Africa.

As per South America, MANY of those countries are NOT free. Corruption is PERVASIVE and dictators RULED up until the late 1980s. MANY of these dictators were FUNDED and put into power by us. Noriega for one. As of now, Most are just pseudo Democracies with a SHIT TON of corruption.

So Take your head out of your ass and learn this has NOTHING to do with religion but freedoms. As for a Christian Theocracy, Modern History speaks for itself. Serbia was an Atrocity and Genocide a Decade ago that was done in the Name Of Christianity. Things don't happen all the time. Just as Muslim extremism isn't something that's been much of a problem until the last 20 years. Idiots (which you fall under) come in all shapes, religions, and ethnic backgrounds. Just look at your own ignorance in your posts.
So you rant and rave about how bad Christianity is and yet all the countries listed about have no religion.

Let the backpeddle commence.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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Stop playing spin doctor and grow a brain. Every Country Above has a religion BUT it's not the religion that dictates the abuses. It's power Hungry officials who stifle freedoms. While some stuff IS DONE in the name of "GOD", most breaks down to some asshole who wants to maintain authority at the cost of those he / she represents. Usually, most atrocities and lack of freedoms start with this vary concept and occasionally gravitate towards religion when circumstances necessitate a rallying point. For instance, we already spoke of one of these cases (Holocaust, etc). Hitler for one, was an asshole who wished to continue running things. With Germany mad over WWI and bankrupt still, Hitler used hatred, bigotry, and xenophobia to justify his cause to stay in power. Sadly, it does work. Yet, even factoring in the religious exceptions, such as in the case of Muslims , Hitler, etc , it is usually a secondary cause. The main cause, POWER HUNGRY leaders wanting to keep the status quo alive and hold onto what they control. You will find this underlying theme in ALL the examples above (Control and Authority). All these governments use heavy handed methods to maintain their leadership. As a result, you tried making this whole argument on Islam and FAILED. Seriously, it's NOT ABOUT RELIGION.

Consequently, I think I did a Sufficient job of showing you otherwise. The world has a lot of oppression. Look at the above, once again. Now, if you want to argue it on the religious front (which is wrong and mostly a Secondary cause), go for it. You'll be then speaking about how bad the CHRISTIAN religion is worldwide as most of the above are Christian / Catholic in nature. Personally, I prefer to blame the bad leaders for the bad policies. These same bad leaders might try to MASK their authority by playing the religious card, but it just a cloud to hide what the true cause is, anyway. But hey, if you want to blame the religion and make it a primary cause for everything, go for it. I'll expect your next rant to be about HOW BAD CHRISTIAN countries are around the world and the suffering people face there at the hands of their Christian leaders. Otherwise, you can get your head out of your butt and realize the real cause much of this crap happens. You're pick.

Note: Should you pick the religion and Xenophobic Islam card, Every rant that follows from you, I'll expect to cover the atrocities and oppression that Christians cause around the world. It's quite a LOT if you look at it from your previous perspective versus mine.

Anyway, this thread has sufficiently educated you. Hope you feel a bit more intelligent. It's a start on a long road for you.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

Stop playing spin doctor and grow a brain. Every Country Above has a religion BUT it's not the religion that dictates the abuses. It's power Hungry officials who stifle freedoms. While some stuff IS DONE in the name of "GOD", most breaks down to some asshole who wants to maintain authority at the cost of those he / she represents. Usually, most atrocities and lack of freedoms start with this vary concept and occasionally gravitate towards religion when circumstances necessitate a rallying point. For instance, we already spoke of one of these cases (Holocaust, etc). Hitler for one, was an asshole who wished to continue running things. With Germany mad over WWI and bankrupt still, Hitler used hatred, bigotry, and xenophobia to justify his cause to stay in power. Sadly, it does work. Yet, even factoring in the religious exceptions, such as in the case of Muslims , Hitler, etc , it is usually a secondary cause. The main cause, POWER HUNGRY leaders wanting to keep the status quo alive and hold onto what they control. You will find this underlying theme in ALL the examples above (Control and Authority). All these governments use heavy handed methods to maintain their leadership. As a result, you tried making this whole argument on Islam and FAILED. Seriously, it's NOT ABOUT RELIGION.
If it wasn't about religion, then why bring the deaths due to Christianity into the argument? Duck and weave backpeddle boy.

Face it, you got caught on one side of an argument and now you are trying (and failing) to weasel you way out of it.

As for Germany, they were pissed off at the Treaty of Versailles that gave away nearly everything they had and forced the Germans to live in squalor for years. Hitler was not a good politician but had a gift for speaking. He chose a group that he thought was the problem and the whole situation was ripe for an internal revolution. Jews had the money and were a convenient target. Hitler himself believed in German mythology and the idea of the Aryan race.

said by jc100:

Consequently, I think I did a Sufficient job of showing you otherwise. The world has a lot of oppression. Look at the above, once again. Now, if you want to argue it on the religious front (which is wrong and mostly a Secondary cause), go for it. You'll be then speaking about how bad the CHRISTIAN religion is worldwide as most of the above are Christian / Catholic in nature. Personally, I prefer to blame the bad leaders for the bad policies. These same bad leaders might try to MASK their authority by playing the religious card, but it just a cloud to hide what the true cause is, anyway. But hey, if you want to blame the religion and make it a primary cause for everything, go for it. I'll expect your next rant to be about HOW BAD CHRISTIAN countries are around the world and the suffering people face there at the hands of their Christian leaders. Otherwise, you can get your head out of your butt and realize the real cause much of this crap happens. You're pick.
Another backpeddle since you have pulled BS statistics out of your ass about how many were killed in the name of Christianity while forgetting how many are killed in the of Islam. You keep pointing out how bad Christians are while ignoring all other arguments.

said by jc100:

Note: Should you pick the religion and Xenophobic Islam card, Every rant that follows from you, I'll expect to cover the atrocities and oppression that Christians cause around the world. It's quite a LOT if you look at it from your previous perspective versus mine.
And there you go, playing your so called xenophobic hatred of Christianity. Pot, kettle, you know the rest.

said by jc100:

Anyway, this thread has sufficiently educated you. Hope you feel a bit more intelligent. It's a start on a long road for you.
The only thing you have shown in this thread is how much of a racist you are towards Christians. Once you play that hand, everything else you type is nothing more than a bluff.

Keep backpeddling.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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Ok YOU ARE THE DUMBEST PERSON ALIVE. I am going to start off with that right now. I TOLD YOU 1000 times, INTELLECTUAL INADEQUATE, the religion argument was to counter your BIGOTRY and playing devils advocate. I GAVE YOU MY REAL VIEW (Which has been posted in OTHER THREADS BEFORE with Amigo Boy), that BAD BEHAVIOR in the name of religion is wrong. RELIGION IS USED to spread hatred BUT IT IS A SECONDARY cause. Most of the OPPRESSION in this world stems from leaders or governments WANTING to maintain their power AT ANY AND ALL COSTS. Religion gets factored in as a secondary cause when one starts losing grasp and needs a rallying point to spread ignorance. Religion OFTEN works as this rallying call. However, IT IS A SECONDARY ISSUE. Understand that LITTLE BOY or do i need to dumb this down further?

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As for Germany, they were pissed off at the Treaty of Versailles that gave away nearly everything they had and forced the Germans to live in squalor for years. Hitler was not a good politician but had a gift for speaking. He chose a group that he thought was the problem and the whole situation was ripe for an internal revolution. Jews had the money and were a convenient target. Hitler himself believed in German mythology and the idea of the Aryan race.
Once again you are the DUMBEST PERSON in the world. Thanks for proving MY POINT about religion being a SECONDARY cause and serving as a focal / rallying point when one wants to maintain or get power. Yet, the MAIN ISSUE is control and NOT about religion. Hitler might have hated the Jews but the REAL ISSUE was NOT the Jews. You said it yourself. Thanks for playing the wheel of retarded. Have a fun ride?

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Another backpeddle since you have pulled BS statistics out of your ass about how many were killed in the name of Christianity while forgetting how many are killed in the of Islam. You keep pointing out how bad Christians are while ignoring all other arguments.
There's no B.S. Statistics about it. Many people are KILLED in the name of religion. However, YOU AND I pointed out above, this is often a secondary factor. However, I'm trying to tell MR. SLOWTARD (You) that one should look at the CAUSE instead of saying that religion is the sole factor. MOST TIMES, when the religion argument comes to play, it equates to a side issue. LEST we not forget, YOU ARE THE ONE arguing religion. I played Devils Advocate and showed you one can take that INTO ACCOUNT FOR MANY RELIGIONS and numbers add up fast. Try again.

End result = You Owned. You = Bigot and You = Unable to make a reasonable point without proving mine. The only one with HATRED issues here is you bud. Devil's Advocate approach works all the time to bring out people's true colors. As I stated, reference my past posts with Amigo and you'll see in many cases, I say bad behavior is wrong and that ALL sides are guilty of atrocities. It's just which argument you want to rely on. If you pick the religious, Christians are SAVAGES and have caused the MOST HARM. Islam is working their way up. If you pick the real issue, POWER HUNGRY LEADERS, then the world just has a lot of IDIOTIC leaders that do a good job of pitting people against one another so THEY can continue to maintain power. Religion just gets tossed in as another factor so these leaders don't lose control.. Sigh.. Stupid is as Stupid does in your case.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
said by jc100:

Ok YOU ARE THE DUMBEST PERSON ALIVE. I am going to start off with that right now. I TOLD YOU 1000 times, INTELLECTUAL INADEQUATE, the religion argument was to counter your BIGOTRY and playing devils advocate. I GAVE YOU MY REAL VIEW (Which has been posted in OTHER THREADS BEFORE with Amigo Boy), that BAD BEHAVIOR in the name of religion is wrong. RELIGION IS USED to spread hatred BUT IT IS A SECONDARY cause. Most of the OPPRESSION in this world stems from leaders or governments WANTING to maintain their power AT ANY AND ALL COSTS. Religion gets factored in as a secondary cause when one starts losing grasp and needs a rallying point to spread ignorance. Religion OFTEN works as this rallying call. However, IT IS A SECONDARY ISSUE. Understand that LITTLE BOY or do i need to dumb this down further?

Once again you are the DUMBEST PERSON in the world. Thanks for proving MY POINT about religion being a SECONDARY cause and serving as a focal / rallying point when one wants to maintain or get power. Yet, the MAIN ISSUE is control and NOT about religion. Hitler might have hated the Jews but the REAL ISSUE was NOT the Jews. You said it yourself. Thanks for playing the wheel of retarded. Have a fun ride?

There's no B.S. Statistics about it. Many people are KILLED in the name of religion. However, YOU AND I pointed out above, this is often a secondary factor. However, I'm trying to tell MR. SLOWTARD (You) that one should look at the CAUSE instead of saying that religion is the sole factor. MOST TIMES, when the religion argument comes to play, it equates to a side issue. LEST we not forget, YOU ARE THE ONE arguing religion. I played Devils Advocate and showed you one can take that INTO ACCOUNT FOR MANY RELIGIONS and numbers add up fast. Try again.

End result = You Owned. You = Bigot and You = Unable to make a reasonable point without proving mine. The only one with HATRED issues here is you bud. Devil's Advocate approach works all the time to bring out people's true colors. As I stated, reference my past posts with Amigo and you'll see in many cases, I say bad behavior is wrong and that ALL sides are guilty of atrocities. It's just which argument you want to rely on. If you pick the religious, Christians are SAVAGES and have caused the MOST HARM. Islam is working their way up. If you pick the real issue, POWER HUNGRY LEADERS, then the world just has a lot of IDIOTIC leaders that do a good job of pitting people against one another so THEY can continue to maintain power. Religion just gets tossed in as another factor so these leaders don't lose control.. Sigh.. Stupid is as Stupid does in your case.
The only end result is you resort to name calling when your arguments fail.

GAME SET MATCH!

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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LOL, Funny. No game set match. I once again am playing your game. There's no need for name calling but let's see, you take that tone in your posts. Once again, I am reciprocating. Maybe I should take the Higher ground, but whatever. You set the tone.

Little Boy
etc etc in your posts

Anyway, here's the problem YOU NOW FACE. YOU DON'T HAVE a rebuttal AT ALL to what I've said. So now you're left staring blankly at the screen. Having Fun? Any how, thanks for proving my points. You do a wonderful job like your cohort Amigo boy. When you grow the common sense to actually NOT BE A BIGOT and Xenophobic (not name calling, TRUTHS), come back and have a real discussion. Until then, I think this topic has SUFFICIENTLY proven you wrong, WITH YOU AIDING ME in doing so!!! How about them apples!

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
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said by jc100:

LOL, Funny. No game set match. I once again am playing your game. There's no need for name calling but let's see, you take that tone in your posts. Once again, I am reciprocating. Maybe I should take the Higher ground, but whatever. You set the tone.

Little Boy
etc etc in your posts

Anyway, here's the problem YOU NOW FACE. YOU DON'T HAVE a rebuttal AT ALL to what I've said. So now you're left staring blankly at the screen. Having Fun? Any how, thanks for proving my points. You do a wonderful job like your cohort Amigo boy. When you grow the common sense to actually NOT BE A BIGOT and Xenophobic (not name calling, TRUTHS), come back and have a real discussion. Until then, I think this topic has SUFFICIENTLY proven you wrong, WITH YOU AIDING ME in doing so!!! How about them apples!
Here is where your argument fails big time.

Your first insult where you insinuate that user "hescominsoon" has not read the Constitution:

said by jc100:

I know the law. Maybe you need to as well.
You like to assume no one is as educated as you when I doubt you have any real insight into the actual issues.

Maybe you need to look at the whole picture before you go off on your usual rant against Christianity like this entire thread has been about. And before you say you hate all bad behavior, you repeated the so-called crimes of Christianity in more than half your posts.

No go create some more anti-Christianity stats since you hate them so much.

jc100

join:2002-04-10
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Here is where your argument fails big time.

Your first insult where you insinuate that user "hescominsoon" has not read the Constitution:
Sorry My argument doesn't fail. Matter of factly, you BACKED it up when you explained the Holocaust just as I lead you to. Thanks again for SHEDDING light on the argument THAT STUPID LEADERS not RELIGION are the culprit. Fantastic Job in proving that as the main point, with Religion as Secondary. I knew I'd get you to assert that finally. There's no need to insult anyone, as you did a great job of proving yourself wrong.

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You like to assume no one is as educated as you when I doubt you have any real insight into the actual issues.

Maybe you need to look at the whole picture before you go off on your usual rant against Christianity like this entire thread has been about. And before you say you hate all bad behavior, you repeated the so-called crimes of Christianity in more than half your posts.

No go create some more anti-Christianity stats since you hate them so much.
Seriously, MY GOD, seriously, do you NOT understand this one already. The Christian rant is the DEVIL'S ADVOCATE APPROACH to prove people like you that there are TWO EXTREMES to both sides. You LOVE POINTING OUT Islam. I then LOVE POINTING OUT CHRISTIANITY. The TRUTH which I HAVE ALSO stated MULTIPLE TIMES (yet you keep ignoring this over and over), is that bad behavior is WRONG NO MATTER WHO DOES IT. Check previous posts. THE ONLY REASON I HARP ON CHRISTIANS is because YOU, AMIGO, and YOUR OTHER COHORTS TAKE THAT APPROACH TO ISLAM. Short of that, NO SIDE IS EVER JUSTIFIED IN THEIR STUPIDITY. People NEED TO STOP rallying behind BAD LEADERS WHO INSTIGATE violence through religion. Bad leaders = Primary Cause Religion = Secondary to maintain power. Let that sink in PLEASE.

End of Rant.