Re: 64 bit 32 bit? in All Things Unix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21031832 en Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:36:21 EDT Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:36:21 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058842 RobNyc : so how many different types of java plugins are there available for 64bit ?
I decided to have 32bit on my AMD Opteron desktop and even on my Core 2 Duo laptop since I only have 2gb of ram ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058842 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:40:02 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21051221 jdong :
said by wmcbrine See Profile :

Java seems to work OK for me now on 64-bit Firefox, although the issue doesn't come up that often. What I have a problem with is Flash. It usually works at first, but then I start getting only grey rectangles, and have to restart Firefox.
That is a nasty (known) interaction between PulseAudio and Flash (ALSA) where there's broken pipes caused by libflashsupport. I have heard that this is fixed for Intrepid but in a manner that requires a newer PulseAudio release which needs a new kernel, which makes it difficult to bring to Hardy.
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Apologies.

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said by Cabal See Profile :

said by EUS See Profile :

Your quote is incorrect. That is not what I wrote.
FYI- Everyone can see the edit time on your post. Mods can see all content as well.
The quote:

quote:
I don't use that XBuntu crap but on my os I'm running the 64-bit version and had to switch to using 32-bit Firefox so I could use java on webpages.


Was written by joako See Profile, not EUS See Profile, it looks like a quote tag got messed up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21049764 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:26:28 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21049724 Cabal :
said by EUS See Profile :

Your quote is incorrect. That is not what I wrote.
FYI- Everyone can see the edit time on your post. Mods can see all content as well.
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said by joako See Profile :

I don't use that XBuntu crap but on my os I'm running the 64-bit version and had to switch to using 32-bit Firefox so I could use java on webpages.
Im sorry, but I must inject here.

'XBuntu' "Crap" is IMO one of the most refined expressions of linux for the end user desktop market.

Im currently on an ubuntu laptop, running the 2.6.24 realtime kernel, and far and away, the best distro Ive ever played with insofar as teaching a windows geek the basics of how linux works on the surface.

I have installed and ran everything from Slackware to peanut, to YellowDog, to suse, to redhat (before forking to fedora) Ive even developed a RT solution for an embedded HMI manufacturer based off xandros, using the enlightenment wm.

I have a little experience playing with linux, and enjoy the challenge, as well as the rewards, but for my daily use computer, I find it hard to beat the "just make it work" philosophy of the ubuntu developers. I mean, its still linux, and having grep parse a long file for given text works the same as whatever distro you're using.

Plus, it has the addded benefit of making it easy to entice closed-source computer users over to the darkside.

Yeah, I guess *buntu has a bit of a learning curve, but dont all distros?

-Jason
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The cool thing, though, is that it works at all (and using only packages from the repositories). I used to have to maintain a separate 32-bit Firefox just for Flash and Java support.
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said by joako See Profile :

I dunno, it's enough of a challange trying to run Linux in a Windows world. I'd rather run Sun Java and not have to worry about compatibility issues.
IcedTea (OpenJDK), the default Ubuntu Java stack for the upcoming release adn available on Hardy, is derived from Sun Java. In fact the next version of Sun Java will be IcedTea based.
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said by joako See Profile :

I dunno, it's enough of a challange trying to run Linux in a Windows world. I'd rather run Sun Java and not have to worry about compatibility issues.
That is one of the beauties of IcedTea, it basically is sun java, it's just that Sun has re-written parts of the code base so it can be opened up. It fully passes the java standard tests making it 100% compatible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21046971 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:28:04 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21046203 joako : I dunno, it's enough of a challange trying to run Linux in a Windows world. I'd rather run Sun Java and not have to worry about compatibility issues.
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09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21046203 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:02:50 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21046100 jdong : IcedTea should have a 64-bit gcjwebplugin based plugin. at least I've used Ubuntu 64-bit Firefox with Java applets before.
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said by joako See Profile :

said by EUS See Profile :

Java/Javascript is still a pain in the butt. Next install, I'm sticking with 32bit (for desktop). Server's running great on 64bit however.
No, it's Sun's fault they don't release a 64-bit java plugin. AFAIK Java is just part of the browser so it should just work.

I don't use that XBuntu crap but on my os I'm running the 64-bit version and had to switch to using 32-bit Firefox so I could use java on webpages.
That should be javascript is built into the browser, not java. As for Sun not releasing a plugin, I don't think they every will, especially now that they have IceTea or whatever it's called, the open-source Java implementation. I haven't tried it yet, but I've heard people have had good luck with it in 64 bit configurations.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21045747 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:57:54 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21045676 joako :
said by EUS See Profile :

Java/Javascript is still a pain in the butt. Next install, I'm sticking with 32bit (for desktop). Server's running great on 64bit however.
No, it's Sun's fault they don't release a 64-bit java plugin. AFAIK Java is just part of the browser so it should just work.

I don't use that XBuntu crap but on my os I'm running the 64-bit version and had to switch to using 32-bit Firefox so I could use java on webpages.
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09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21045676 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:47:57 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21033603 Anub1s : 64bit desktop for years now. No more of an inconvenience than anything else. I tire of this topic every other month or so.
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Hardy 64bit]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21033603 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:55:33 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21032823 jdong : Ubuntu Gutsy/Hardy does fairly well in terms of browser plugin compatibility out-of-the-box with 64-bit setups. As far as advantages, I run both 32-bit and 64-bit distros on my systems and have not noticed a very appreciable performance difference either way. Personally I prefer 32-bit for compatibility.
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said by Jason See Profile :

There are tons of tutorials around that will help you get whatever you need running, running.
Yep, there are. And that's what I meant. There is a fairly large difference between stuff just working from synaptic/apt-get and "All I need to do is follow this howto, and that howto, and the howto over there"

I can do it. I have done it. For the tiny performance bump in 99.9% of the apps I personally am using, it's not worth it. When everything just works, I'm all all over it. Should be any year now :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031832 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:32:34 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031346 Jason : I dont know, I have the 64bit ubuntu 8.04 HH installed, and yeah, the Sun Java isnt working right yet, but for my needs, the icetea plugin works just fine.. Otherwise, Ive been able to get everything I want to run, to run.. Just have to make sure all your 32bit libs are installed.

HP laptop, AMD Turion64 x2, 4GB ram..

And Im a pretty new linux user.. There are tons of tutorials around that will help you get whatever you need running, running.

-Jason
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said by EUS See Profile :

Server's running great on 64bit however.
Yep, that seems to be the answer. I'm running 32bit on my laptop w/4gb, it sees all 4gb as long as you use the server kernel (needs PAE)
I tried the 64 bit for a while, too much desktop stuff didn't work without lots of poking and peeking ;)
64bit server - ready for prime time
64bit desktop - reply hazy, try again later]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031243 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:18:11 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031166 EUS : Java/Javascript is still a pain in the butt. Next install, I'm sticking with 32bit (for desktop). Server's running great on 64bit however.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031166 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:56:18 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031029 underthehood : Nah don't have 4 gig (2) and not doing gobs of work as described. So I think I'll leave well enough alone. Everything works well, network setup was successful and it's stable.
Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21031029 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:17:54 EDT Re: 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21030959 DeHackEd : If you have huge amounts of RAM (4 gigs or more) and want to put it to good use, 64 bit is definitely the way to go.
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said by underthehood See Profile :

I installed Ubuntu with WUBI on my dual core 64 bit notebook but I installed the 32 bit version. Is there any advantage to the 64 bit version? If so is it possible to install it without "breaking" everything I have set up already or do I have to start from scratch or is it just not worth the trouble?
Thanks
You would have to re-install from scratch. As to advantages, it depends on what you're going to be doing. Unless you are going to be doing lots of multimedia work, 64bit programming, use of a database, etc, 32bit will be just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21030865 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:14:54 EDT 64 bit 32 bit? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21030800 underthehood : I installed Ubuntu with WUBI on my dual core 64 bit notebook but I installed the 32 bit version. Is there any advantage to the 64 bit version? If so is it possible to install it without "breaking" everything I have set up already or do I have to start from scratch or is it just not worth the trouble?
Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21030800 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:53:37 EDT