WernerSchutz
join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX
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Re: Bandwidth Limits/Congestion Management - All discussion here
Humbly I would say that if you have a choice you should use it. The advantage is two fold:
1. You would have better service. FiOS is a superior product.
2. You would help those of us that do not have that choice. Losing customers to FiOS would send a message to CC to improve service and lower prices. |
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hata28
join:2008-12-16
Philadelphia, PA
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said by good one :
CC has been making sure FIOS is forced to live with the same government mandated requirements/standards for TV service as CC is facing now. That what is CC is fighting for.
You've made your position well known that you don't like CC caps on HSI usage. So again, why haven't you switched to FIOS? Making threats on message boards won't change a thing. Both CC and FIOS made their choice on the terms of their service and both are aware what customers want or don't want.
I am not making any threat. Why should I? I just said I am glad to have a choice NOW! |
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good one
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CC has been making sure FIOS is forced to live with the same government mandated requirements/standards for TV service as CC is facing now. That what is CC is fighting for.
You've made your position well known that you don't like CC caps on HSI usage. So again, why haven't you switched to FIOS? Making threats on message boards won't change a thing. Both CC and FIOS made their choice on the terms of their service and both are aware what customers want or don't want. |
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hata28
join:2008-12-16
Philadelphia, PA
1 edit | reply to espaeth
said by espaeth  :said by hata28 :btw, how much will business class cost extra I am on 50/10 now? I prepare to switch to FIOS once I receive the CAPPED called and KISS my Axx! Goodbye! It probably varies by market, but the 22/5 business service is $99.95 and the 50/10 business is $189.95 here in the Minneapolis market. it's too much for 50/10 business class, I'd have FIOS install too, just for the Internet perhaps! |
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hata28
join:2008-12-16
Philadelphia, PA
| reply to good one
said by good one :
So, why haven't you switched to FIOS already, if it's available as you stated.
Well, as long as CC don't bother me about the capped issue, I'll stay till my $70 extreme tier expire! FIOS is new to my area of Comcast Hometown of Philladelphia and they have been fighting to keep FIOS out, but FIOS is here now and I am glad to have a choice. |
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espaeth
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| reply to hata28
said by hata28 :btw, how much will business class cost extra I am on 50/10 now? I prepare to switch to FIOS once I receive the CAPPED called and KISS my Axx! Goodbye! It probably varies by market, but the 22/5 business service is $99.95 and the 50/10 business is $189.95 here in the Minneapolis market. |
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good one
@comcast.net | reply to WernerSchutz
Re: IPPlanMan considers the business tier
No one is forcing anyone to use Comcast. If you don't like their terms or the way they do business, then don't use their service.
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good one
@comcast.net | reply to hata28
Re: Bandwidth Limits/Congestion Management - All discussion here
So, why haven't you switched to FIOS already, if it's available as you stated. |
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
| reply to hata28
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Internet Preferred Plan $89.95 per month
* 16 Mbps broadband downloads/2Mbps broadband Uploads + PowerBoost
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hata28
join:2008-12-16
Philadelphia, PA | reply to sortofageek
btw, how much will business class cost extra I am on 50/10 now? I prepare to switch to FIOS once I receive the CAPPED called and KISS my Axx! Goodbye! |
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WernerSchutz
join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX
| reply to IPPlanMan
Re: IPPlanMan considers the business tier
We pay too much for HSI depending on what is provided. Speed is fine but the cap is not. I have no issue paying more for the business class, which I do, given the lack of competition and available alternatives, HOWEVER, the fact that that people have been kicked off even after trying to upgrade to this higher class service is an issue, not to mention our buddy from the "abuse" department and the lecture. |
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nate1234
join:2008-08-21
Moorestown, NJ
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to aefstoggaflm
Re: Comcast banned me today 2nd warning 680 GB
I dont know, i am sure if you had a faster computer, you could crack it faster. I did it in 4 minutes on an eee pc 701.
To answer your question, yes... depending on the # of bits of encryption, length of the password, "randomness" of the password, speed of the network, speed of the computer, and many other things. |
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aefstoggaflm
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1 edit | reply to nate1234
said by nate1234 :yea... 128bit wep can be cracked in 2-7 minutes, i have done it my self... its really easy. According to my source: Security Now! with Steve Gibson, Episode 89 for April 26, 2007: WEP Insecurity.
WEP can broken in less than 60 seconds.
So, you are saying it matters the level of WEP?
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sortofageek
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2 edits | reply to IPPlanMan
Re: IPPlanMan considers the business tier
said by user=IPPlanMan :
Problem is that the cap is no higher for the 50/10 than it is for the 1/384.
Hashed to death. Please, let's not keep going over and over this. This issue bothers you, even though it has been pointed out repeatedly:
There are different prices for different speed tiers. Higher prices buy you greater speed, not more bandwidth. If you want more bandwidth, it is available at yet a different price. As a consumer, I have choices. So do you. Talking about it forever in this topic isn't going to change that.
Is there anything new on this aspect of the topic?
said by IPPlanMan : Some honest questions: 1) Do you believe that you already pay too much for HSI? My honest answer is that I wouldn't pay the price if I didn't think it was fair. Short answer: no
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sortofageek
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Are you wanting to discuss something about metered billing not already covered?
From the first post:
Metered Billing?
»Metered billing system, discussed many times
»If metered, What cost would you pay?
»Metered billing again
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IPPlanMan
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join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
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said by Sofa King :Should you pay more if your service usage costs more than what you are billed for? Or should all the "email checkers" fund your usage? That's not what I said at all.
Please show me how someone's internet binge costs you. Comcast already has different speed/cost tiers for users. Problem is that the cap is no higher for the 50/10 than it is for the 1/384.
Some honest questions:
1) Do you believe that you already pay too much for HSI?
2) I think answer to your questions/concerns is "metered" billing if you get the feeling that you're paying for the use of thers. Do you support that for Comcast HSI?
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AVonGauss
Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
1 edit | reply to IPPlanMan
No, its the service offering available to residential customers. Comcast does provide an option for customers who have a higher requirement for bandwidth, their business service offering which you can subscribe to even at a residential location. The other option is to find another provider, which as you state you are in DC might be Verizon FIOS in the next couple of years. However, I also would be willing to bet by the time that installation option is available to you Verizon will have some sort of mechanism in place to differentiate their residential offering with residential usage patterns from their business offering with their typical usage patterns.
You are claiming Comcast is wanting to -force- people to remain with their traditional video product, but ironically, out of the video providers in the US Comcast happens to be the one making the largest effort to give people a certain amount of choice. Granted, its not quite open access or total choice yet, but it is closer to that than any other provider I believe. |
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Sofa King
Premium
join:2009-03-01
Littleton, MA
3 edits | reply to IPPlanMan
• Many ISPs are picking a threshold as a commercial differentiator. Comcast is probably the highest with a threshold.
• I and many people use all the services you specified including TV streaming within the cap. I believe Netflix would probably say they are very successful within all the "excessive limitations" you claim.
As usual you twist others words, state corner cases, make speculative statements and fail to answer the questions posed.
Should you pay more if your service usage costs more than what you are billed for? Or should all the "email checkers" fund your usage? |
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
2 edits | reply to AVonGauss
So is that the reason that the 250GB cap is where it is? Facilitates the upsell? We can't seem to get an answer from Comcast on the how or why 250GB was picked, or what makes it constitute excessive use. My whole point is that Comcast's residential tier capacity is being outpaced by the technological capabilities of the end equipment. The need is growing... but as Sofa said, "market differentiation". Keep the people capped at 250GB, and they'll think that's all the internet is... TV is for TV, Don't use Netflix Streaming... Instead use OnDemand/Premium channels.
It's not "differentiation" as much as it is "channeling" growth on Comcast's terms and service products. The cap lets them do that without really having to compete.
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"We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it."
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AVonGauss
Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
1 edit | reply to IPPlanMan
said by IPPlanMan :The business tier resembles an upsell... like Supersize fries... Of course it is, an up-sell for a super-sized demand. However, more to the point, you have an option today, subscribe to the business service which you are electing not to exercise. So is the case you really don't have the need today or that you just prefer to complain frequently to your peers?  |
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