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pianotech
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Re: Bandwidth Limits - All discussion here

But we are getting way off course. I still have not heard a good reason why net users shouldn't be charged according to the bandwidth they use.

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said by pianotech:

But we are getting way off course. I still have not heard a good reason why net users shouldn't be charged according to the bandwidth they use.
Have you seen ANYWHERE where I was opposed to metered billing?
I use a network crushing 30-35GB per month!
Bring it on!

At the current pricing scheme, I am paying(aparently) $52.95 for 250GB per month.
Do the math!
With metered/by the GB use, my bill would be $7.41 per month!

Naw, screw all that, huh?

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Have you seen ANYWHERE where I was opposed to metered billing?
Great, then we agree!
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What I think is wrong is Comcast threatening to discontinue service to those who go over. That's just dumb. Why not just charge them more accordingly? The added profits would make their shareholders happy.

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said by pianotech:

What I think is wrong is Comcast threatening to discontinue service to those who go over. That's just dumb. Why not just charge them more accordingly? The added profits would make their shareholders happy.
There is still the opinion by some heavy users that metered usage/billing is still unfair. You'll never please them. I would love metered usage/billing. My usage is so low, that my bill should be $5.00 a month.

My usage for 1.5 days:

WAN Bandwidth - Daily
Date Download Upload Total
2008-08-31 0.13 GB 0.00 GB 0.13 GB
2008-08-30 0.40 GB 0.03 GB 0.42 GB

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said by pianotech:

What I think is wrong is Comcast threatening to discontinue service to those who go over. That's just dumb. Why not just charge them more accordingly? The added profits would make their shareholders happy.
I agree!
I think per use would be fine!
Some people think I am opposed to this form of billing - WRONG!

Let's see - $52.95 and use 35GB per month, or $7.41 for the same use... yeah, hard decision!

No, it aint happening and it aint my fault.
Bring it on!

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said by pianotech:

But we are getting way off course. I still have not heard a good reason why net users shouldn't be charged according to the bandwidth they use.
These are good reasons, but (which is more to your point) they aren't absolute reasons.

1. Many customers don't want to be billed by the byte.

2. A company in the business of delivering video for a flat fee stifles competition when it charges by the byte.

3. The growth rate of individual bandwidth consumption is slowing year after year. So after several years of successfully offing unlimited bandwidth, why the need to switch now unless the service providers are failing to keep up with the times?

4. By-the-byte billing is going backward on the technological scale of evolution.
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said by Johkal:

There is still the opinion by some heavy users that metered usage/billing is still unfair. You'll never please them. I would love metered usage/billing. My usage is so low, that my bill should be $5.00 a month.

My usage for 1.5 days:

WAN Bandwidth - Daily
Date Download Upload Total
2008-08-31 0.13 GB 0.00 GB 0.13 GB
2008-08-30 0.40 GB 0.03 GB 0.42 GB
Fair is a subjective determination which is used in bargaining.

In my view, strict metering wouldn't be fair unless there was also an infrastructure charge built in. Everyone who is connected, whether they use 0 KB or 1000 TB needs to be billed, needs the company to monitor the quality of the connection, needs the infrastructure maintained and upgraded.

A fair bill, to some, might look like:

Internet connection: $20.00
Internet usage, 51.2 GB: $7.94
Internet total: $27.94

and

Internet connection: $20.00
Internet usage, 512.0 GB: $79.40
Internet total: $99.40

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I see no problem with a base charge before the actual metered charge.
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said by Johkal:

I see no problem with a base charge before the actual metered charge.
Of course not, but some of us would rather be happy if Comcast hadn't changed it at all, really meant it when they said "unlimited" and not threaten it's own customers over the phone when the user hadn't done anything different in their usage for years, especially when Comcast either can't prove or won't prove that one's usage is supposedly impacting the node.