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Sukunai

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Re: Wargamers sound off

Posting a cross post purpose comment here.

I have the Nintendo DS (but I am willing to consider this a PSP type comment too).

We all know that a lot of old school looking board game appearing computer wargames are notorious for low tech needing computational power.

And yet I hear it constantly "oh we can't afford to make games for console".

That's such utter crap.

All one needs to do, is go on a Nintendo based site, and witness the stream of games released for this particular hand held console, and it is VERY clear, that everyone and their aunt is making games at light speed, and the games are often such incredible mind numbing levels of blandness and garbage like crud.

But it wasn't like these companies were able to just dump this crud on the market for free.

So, are we to accept that a company KNOWN for wargaming excellence, can't make a simple toned down version wargame that can compete with a Pet simulator?

If they can produce titles like War in the Pacific (which reaches entirely anal levels of detail) and titles like Strategic Command which has about the simplest interface in PC wargaming, then they can master the process of putting a wargame on the hand held too.

Otherwise it is fair to claim that wargame makers are morons when it comes to basic marketing, even if they can get the stats correct for a Tiger tank.


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Played the first three a lot. Recently installed an Iraq version of Close Combat, but can't get the map to display objective flags. Also played Panzer General and many QQP games. I also like war/strategy games like the Total War series. I have a lot of old Avalon Hill boxed board war games that I'm thinking of selling soon.
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Jigsaw
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said by Sukunai See Profile :

On the surface Hexwar sounds good.

But the cost being

Current Pricing

* $13.95 a month if paid monthly.
* $38.50 for a 3 month subscription, i.e. $12.83 a month.
* $72.25 for a 6 month subscription, i.e. $12.04 a month.
* $129.95 for an annual subscription, i.e. $10.83 a month.

It utterly, and totally and completely got wiped completely off the map by the following.

Vassal
»www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php
Classic board games, and the Vassal program is free, and there is NO usage fee.
Cyberboard
»cyberboard.brainiac.com/
Classic board games as well and just as free.

End result, Hexwar never had a chance.
Ohh nice......Thanks for the links see i knew not jumping right into things is a good thing
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Sukunai

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I would have mentioned VASL but figured after mentioning Vassal (the parent of VASL) it would be self evident


royhandy
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said by Sukunai See Profile :

Vassal
»www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php
Classic board games, and the Vassal program is free, and there is NO usage fee.
»www.vassalengine.org/community/i···le_id=21

ZOMG!

Sukunai

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reply to Sukunai
On the surface Hexwar sounds good.

But the cost being

Current Pricing

* $13.95 a month if paid monthly.
* $38.50 for a 3 month subscription, i.e. $12.83 a month.
* $72.25 for a 6 month subscription, i.e. $12.04 a month.
* $129.95 for an annual subscription, i.e. $10.83 a month.

It utterly, and totally and completely got wiped completely off the map by the following.

Vassal
»www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php
Classic board games, and the Vassal program is free, and there is NO usage fee.
Cyberboard
»cyberboard.brainiac.com/
Classic board games as well and just as free.

End result, Hexwar never had a chance.


Jigsaw
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reply to Sukunai
You may like this im thinking on signing up to it...

»www.hexwar.com/

Sukunai

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Sounds like I am amopng friends

My only claim to fame, my name is in the credits for a spin off product made for Steel Panthers. That being the Mega Campaigns. I worked on Steel Panthers World at War Mega Campaign Screaming Eagles. Involves the 101st and their time in Europe.

I became burnt out between 2003 and 2005 with wargames though and have been waiting to get the fire back.


royhandy
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Steel Panthers will always hold a place in my heart. The Great Naval Battles games were fun. Harpoon was an awesome game. Same with all of the old SSI wargames on the older Apple machines. I think the most fun I ever had with a war game was The Hunt For Red October on a Tandy 1000 TX ca. 1991. I still play Close Combat 3 every once in a while.

I have three Avalon Hill bookcase games sitting on my shelf...Panzergruppe Guderian, Arab Israeli Wars, and Panzer Leader. Somewhere in a box a copy of Squad Leader sits unplayed. I used to have more but I sold my collection to a friend about 5 years ago. These are all I've been able to find at the local garage sales/flea markets.

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Jigsaw
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reply to Sukunai
Played and or still playing most of them.


JIGA
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I vaguely recall the Close Combat series.


GeorgeCr
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Loved the "Close Combat" series despite all the bugs and changes to the gameplay.

Played "Steel Panthers" briefly but it was a long time ago.
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Mchart
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reply to Sukunai
Definatly. Steel Panthers: World at War was one of my most heavily played games back in the day. I still enjoy it today, but it is hard enjoying it with the extremely old graphics and mighty low resolution.

The Close Combat's were classics as well. I used to play those games quite a bit but as stated, it is hard getting myself to play those types of games anymore when they just like look like a pile of mud now. The only wargame i've been playing at all recently is IL2. Of course, this is a simulation.

Sukunai

join:2008-05-07
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If you recognize these games/names/terms, speak up.

Steel Panthers.
Combat Mission
Close Combat
The Operational Art of War
Panzer Campaigns
Campoaign Series

Or these company names

Matrix Games
Panther Games
SSG Strategic Studies Group
Battlefront
HPS simulations

Or in the realm of non computer gaming.
ASL
A3R
WiF

I am wanting to know if I have any kindred spirits about.
Otherwise no one will ever understand anything I post.
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