Wargamers sound off in PC gaming GAMES http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21039773 en Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:45:00 EDT Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:45:00 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086594 Sukunai : Posting a cross post purpose comment here.

I have the Nintendo DS (but I am willing to consider this a PSP type comment too).

We all know that a lot of old school looking board game appearing computer wargames are notorious for low tech needing computational power.

And yet I hear it constantly "oh we can't afford to make games for console".

That's such utter crap.

All one needs to do, is go on a Nintendo based site, and witness the stream of games released for this particular hand held console, and it is VERY clear, that everyone and their aunt is making games at light speed, and the games are often such incredible mind numbing levels of blandness and garbage like crud.

But it wasn't like these companies were able to just dump this crud on the market for free.

So, are we to accept that a company KNOWN for wargaming excellence, can't make a simple toned down version wargame that can compete with a Pet simulator?

If they can produce titles like War in the Pacific (which reaches entirely anal levels of detail) and titles like Strategic Command which has about the simplest interface in PC wargaming, then they can master the process of putting a wargame on the hand held too.

Otherwise it is fair to claim that wargame makers are morons when it comes to basic marketing, even if they can get the stats correct for a Tiger tank.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086594 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:59:09 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21075656 tim_k : Played the first three a lot. Recently installed an Iraq version of Close Combat, but can't get the map to display objective flags. Also played Panzer General and many QQP games. I also like war/strategy games like the Total War series. I have a lot of old Avalon Hill boxed board war games that I'm thinking of selling soon.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21075656 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:10:38 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21068458 Jigsaw :
said by Sukunai See Profile :

On the surface Hexwar sounds good.

But the cost being

Current Pricing

* $13.95 a month if paid monthly.
* $38.50 for a 3 month subscription, i.e. $12.83 a month.
* $72.25 for a 6 month subscription, i.e. $12.04 a month.
* $129.95 for an annual subscription, i.e. $10.83 a month.

It utterly, and totally and completely got wiped completely off the map by the following.

Vassal
»www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php
Classic board games, and the Vassal program is free, and there is NO usage fee.
Cyberboard
»cyberboard.brainiac.com/
Classic board games as well and just as free.

End result, Hexwar never had a chance.
Ohh nice......Thanks for the links see i knew not jumping right into things is a good thing :)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21068458 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:27:06 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059477 Sukunai : I would have mentioned VASL but figured after mentioning Vassal (the parent of VASL) it would be self evident :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059477 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:31:05 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058419 royhandy :
said by Sukunai See Profile :

Vassal
»www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php
Classic board games, and the Vassal program is free, and there is NO usage fee.
»www.vassalengine.org/community/i···le_id=21

ZOMG!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058419 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:29:53 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057250 Sukunai : On the surface Hexwar sounds good.

But the cost being

Current Pricing

* $13.95 a month if paid monthly.
* $38.50 for a 3 month subscription, i.e. $12.83 a month.
* $72.25 for a 6 month subscription, i.e. $12.04 a month.
* $129.95 for an annual subscription, i.e. $10.83 a month.

It utterly, and totally and completely got wiped completely off the map by the following.

Vassal
»www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php
Classic board games, and the Vassal program is free, and there is NO usage fee.
Cyberboard
»cyberboard.brainiac.com/
Classic board games as well and just as free.

End result, Hexwar never had a chance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057250 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:56:50 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054543 Jigsaw : You may like this im thinking on signing up to it...

»www.hexwar.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054543 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:32:05 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054368 Sukunai : :)

Sounds like I am amopng friends :)

My only claim to fame, my name is in the credits for a spin off product made for Steel Panthers. That being the Mega Campaigns. I worked on Steel Panthers World at War Mega Campaign Screaming Eagles. Involves the 101st and their time in Europe.

I became burnt out between 2003 and 2005 with wargames though and have been waiting to get the fire back.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054368 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:48:11 EDT Re: Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21051145 royhandy : Steel Panthers will always hold a place in my heart. The Great Naval Battles games were fun. Harpoon was an awesome game. Same with all of the old SSI wargames on the older Apple machines. I think the most fun I ever had with a war game was The Hunt For Red October on a Tandy 1000 TX ca. 1991. I still play Close Combat 3 every once in a while.

I have three Avalon Hill bookcase games sitting on my shelf...Panzergruppe Guderian, Arab Israeli Wars, and Panzer Leader. Somewhere in a box a copy of Squad Leader sits unplayed. I used to have more but I sold my collection to a friend about 5 years ago. These are all I've been able to find at the local garage sales/flea markets.


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Played "Steel Panthers" briefly but it was a long time ago.
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The Close Combat's were classics as well. I used to play those games quite a bit but as stated, it is hard getting myself to play those types of games anymore when they just like look like a pile of mud now. The only wargame i've been playing at all recently is IL2. Of course, this is a simulation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21040085 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:13:21 EDT Wargamers sound off http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21039773 Sukunai : If you recognize these games/names/terms, speak up.

Steel Panthers.
Combat Mission
Close Combat
The Operational Art of War
Panzer Campaigns
Campoaign Series

Or these company names

Matrix Games
Panther Games
SSG Strategic Studies Group
Battlefront
HPS simulations

Or in the realm of non computer gaming.
ASL
A3R
WiF

I am wanting to know if I have any kindred spirits about.
Otherwise no one will ever understand anything I post.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21039773 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:54:31 EDT