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worth getting another card for SLI?

should i get another 7800GTX
i did save my SLI clip

i do like playing Red Alert 2 but after some time of play it gets a bit laggey

i might get RA3 when it comes out

custom ini Resolution of 1680 x 1050

my system specs:

AMD Opteron 170 2.0GHz
DFI-SLI-DR
Windows 2003 SD(it runs faster then XP)
2GB ram
4 x 250GB raid 0
1.5GB temp drive
20GB temp drive
160GB back up drive
BFG 7800GTX
600watt power supply (SLI supported)


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RA2 is a completely 2D game. The power of your graphics card has nothing to do with it getting lagey. That's your system having issues in general.

Your money would be better spent buying a new graphics card. A single 8800GT which only costs 110 bucks vastly outperforms even two 7800GTX's in SLI. You may also want to think about building a new system in general. That old opteron is your major bottle neck right now.


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if i were to do a whole system upgrade it would cost me 3k
i do not have a job right now so no


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if i were to do a whole system upgrade it would cost me 3k
i do not have a job right now so no
It would? Only cost me 1200 to build a system that runs crysis max settings.


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i would have to get neW:
HDD
PSU 1.2Kw
Case
Monitor (LED backlight) (but i can use the display i all ready have but it is kind of borken)
MB
RAM
keyborad
Mouse
blu-ray drive
dvd burner
speakers
video card
Laser printer
water cooling setup
(i have Retail OS so it can transfer to the new PC)

i might sell my old stuff to recover some of the cost

after i get the new stuff


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Why do you need that though? You can easily build a highly functional gaming system with most of those peripherals for way less than 3k.

You only need a 1.2kw PSU if you're going to be running 2+ GTX 280s.


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said by jouno53 See Profile :

Why do you need that though? You can easily build a highly functional gaming system with most of those peripherals for way less than 3k.

You only need a 1.2kw PSU if you're going to be running 2+ GTX 280s.
You don't even need a 1.2kw PSU to run two GTX 280's, a 800w from a quality manufacturer would be just fine.


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i would have to get neW:
HDD
PSU 1.2Kw
Case
Monitor (LED backlight) (but i can use the display i all ready have but it is kind of borken)
MB
RAM
keyborad
Mouse
blu-ray drive
dvd burner
speakers
video card
Laser printer
water cooling setup
(i have Retail OS so it can transfer to the new PC)

i might sell my old stuff to recover some of the cost

after i get the new stuff
Obviously a new system would cost well over 3 grand if you decided to get all that crap. If you really want to play games why would you waste your money on something like a bluray drive? Why would do you need a laser printer for gaming? Water cooling? Give me a break dude. If you really want the newer games to run faster you are going to need a new system - But half the overpriced crap you have on your list isn't needed - nor will it enhance the gameplay experiance of any games. A single ATI 4850 which outperforms an 8800GT and only costs 180 bucks only needs a 500w PSU at most. Even including the price of a new monitor, you wouldn't have to spend more then 1500 for a new system that will play any game with maximum settings.

But I suppose if you want crap like a bluray drive and a laser printer (huh?) you'll be waiting a while.


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well i am on a very limited budget like 40$ for the video
i might beable to get an used 7800gtx for that price


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said by Anonymous_ See Profile :

well i am on a very limited budget like 40$ for the video
i might beable to get an used 7800gtx for that price
If you can really find one for that price then I don't see why not. Don't expect much improvement, however.


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yea i found one on ebay


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well i am on a very limited budget like 40$ for the video
i might beable to get an used 7800gtx for that price
In my opinion it would be best to look for an 8800GT on sale, spend an extra $50 to gain a lot better performance. Then sell your current 7800 to pretty much make up the difference, and you're back to only spending $40.

But doing that you'll end up with a much better graphics cards than 7800 SLI. Of course that is dependent on you being able to come up with the extra funds. You can usually find the 8800GT ~$100 A/R so if you can manage like $130 up front, it would be ok. You could then get a $30 rebate and sell your old card for ~$50-60.
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I wouldn't waste the money on another 7800. Just upgrade to a newer card like the 260.

But that isn't going to help much. your problem isn't the video card. It's your cpu/memory subsystem that is having the hard time with the game. With rts games like that, the games slow down when you start getting a lot of units going.


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i would have to totaly agree i spent 1100 bucks on my comp and it runs crysis max settings i spent a little less on my video card than gettin the 4000 series ati card my specs are this

2.6 ghz triple core amd phenom processor
3gb ddr2 at 800 mhz
160 gb hdd
500w psu
dvd burner
wireless mouse and keyboard
speakers
butterfly cpu heatsink
and a ati saphirre radeon 3870 hd pro video card
1100 bucks including the shipping


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I have a bit of perspective on this question, as I had single GPU setup and then went SLI.

(using 3dmark)

The numbers on my single stock 8800 GTX were around 11,000. qx6700, . . . raid 0, 4 gigs of ram, 5.9's across the board on vista performance benchmark.

With a second GTX added, with no overclocking whatsoever, I made about 14500.

With some tweaking (no voltages) and heavy duty air cooling, I could overclock the CPU and GPU and squeeze out almost 17,000.

Now, you can't play crysis with anything less than SLI, but the question is, do you want to shell out the extra cash to make 1 game playable? Actual game FPS improvements? At best perhaps 15% . . .the synthetic tests show a little more improvement.

Also consider that if you want to run high res, high detail . . you need more than just SLI . .but video memory.

Some of the more high end cards selling now have less memory than their predecessors and arguably there isn't as much of a performance increase at really high res, high detail games. If you really want to run Crysis at high res, the cost effective solution is go with the G80 GT.

It may be worth looking at slightly older cards with 768 meg of ram versus a newer card with 512 meg. But considering you can get a nearly identical setup in SLI for $240 with the 8800 GT . . .that really only suffers performance loss in low resolutions . . .I would say either spend more and get the GX2 or go with the 8800 GT SLI setup.

e.g. the 8800 gtx has 768 . . while the 9800 gtx and the 8800 GT both only have 512 . . .

»www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.p···umber=12

The GX2 blows both out of the water at 1 gig of ram each . .but it's also much more expensive.

But at $280 per card, that's almost a 600 dollar investment to play a game you play spending half that (2 8800 GT) at roughly $240

The inbetween, but somewhat harder to get choice would be the 8800 GTX which has 768 meg. I'm not sure on the pricing because most major retailers don't sell it . . could probably be gotten on the cheap from ebay for less than the GT sells new. That would ultimatly be your best bang for the buck, 8800GTX x2 from Ebay.

I'd go for identical cards . . . EVGA cards will sell for more because of the warranty. Ensure the seller hasn't messed with the voltages. These should be gotten anywhere from $100 - $170 if you look carefully.

(source : newegg searches for cheapest 9800 GX2 and 8800 GT)


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said by longstreet See Profile :

I have a bit of perspective on this question, as I had single GPU setup and then went SLI.

(using 3dmark)

The numbers on my single stock 8800 GTX were around 11,000. qx6700, . . . raid 0, 4 gigs of ram, 5.9's across the board on vista performance benchmark.

With a second GTX added, with no overclocking whatsoever, I made about 14500.

With some tweaking (no voltages) and heavy duty air cooling, I could overclock the CPU and GPU and squeeze out almost 17,000.

Now, you can't play crysis with anything less than SLI, but the question is, do you want to shell out the extra cash to make 1 game playable? Actual game FPS improvements? At best perhaps 15% . . .the synthetic tests show a little more improvement.

Also consider that if you want to run high res, high detail . . you need more than just SLI . .but video memory.

Some of the more high end cards selling now have less memory than their predecessors and arguably there isn't as much of a performance increase at really high res, high detail games. If you really want to run Crysis at high res, the cost effective solution is go with the G80 GT.

It may be worth looking at slightly older cards with 768 meg of ram versus a newer card with 512 meg. But considering you can get a nearly identical setup in SLI for $240 with the 8800 GT . . .that really only suffers performance loss in low resolutions . . .I would say either spend more and get the GX2 or go with the 8800 GT SLI setup.

e.g. the 8800 gtx has 768 . . while the 9800 gtx and the 8800 GT both only have 512 . . .

»www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.p···umber=12

The GX2 blows both out of the water at 1 gig of ram each . .but it's also much more expensive.

But at $280 per card, that's almost a 600 dollar investment to play a game you play spending half that (2 8800 GT) at roughly $240

The inbetween, but somewhat harder to get choice would be the 8800 GTX which has 768 meg. I'm not sure on the pricing because most major retailers don't sell it . . could probably be gotten on the cheap from ebay for less than the GT sells new. That would ultimatly be your best bang for the buck, 8800GTX x2 from Ebay.

I'd go for identical cards . . . EVGA cards will sell for more because of the warranty. Ensure the seller hasn't messed with the voltages. These should be gotten anywhere from $100 - $170 if you look carefully.

(source : newegg searches for cheapest 9800 GX2 and 8800 GT)
Uh, you definatly can play crysis with a single GPU solution, and an inexpensive one at that. My single 8800GT plays Crysis just fine with max settings @ 1920*1200 w/o AA. I'd say thats pretty good for a 130 dollar card.


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Point taken, but you're not really running max settings with AA turned off.

Dial up everything and it makes an impact, especially on a lower ram card - illustrates the point of why an 8800 GTX is far superior IF he wants to run everything decked out.

If one was inclined to run max resolution only, then a single GT would suffice it would seem.

If you want to run max res and max detail (including AA) on the cheap, the best budget choice is the 8800 GTX . . over the 8800 GT and all flavors of the 9800 (minus the GX2 - if it's a 9800 series)

If he can grab the card on ebay for less than the price of a new GT (and EVGA at that) there's nothing to loose (other than dealing with ebay)


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I think the best advice for this guy is to just save your money.

Save up till you have roughly around 1k and built a nice system. All you need is the following:

Case
Power Supply
Motherboard
CPU
RAM
Video
Hard Drive
Sound Card - Optional, you can just use the onbaord sound, these days it is pretty damn good.

All of that can be done for under 1k if you spend your time doing product and pricing research.

And that's it. You already have a keyboard/mouse/monitor


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said by JIGA See Profile :

I think the best advice for this guy is to just save your money.

Save up till you have roughly around 1k and built a nice system. All you need is the following:

Case
Power Supply
Motherboard
CPU
RAM
Video
Hard Drive
Sound Card - Optional, you can just use the onbaord sound, these days it is pretty damn good.

All of that can be done for under 1k if you spend your time doing product and pricing research.

And that's it. You already have a keyboard/mouse/monitor
if i sold my MB,CPU,Videocard and ram i can get like 400$

keep the case,XP Pro (Retail), hard drives and dvd burner
monitor kb ,mouse and PSU


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said by Anonymous_ See Profile :

said by JIGA See Profile :

I think the best advice for this guy is to just save your money.

Save up till you have roughly around 1k and built a nice system. All you need is the following:

Case
Power Supply
Motherboard
CPU
RAM
Video
Hard Drive
Sound Card - Optional, you can just use the onbaord sound, these days it is pretty damn good.

All of that can be done for under 1k if you spend your time doing product and pricing research.

And that's it. You already have a keyboard/mouse/monitor
if i sold my MB,CPU,Videocard and ram i can get like 400$

keep the case,XP Pro (Retail), hard drives and dvd burner
monitor kb ,mouse and PSU
If that's the case then in the end you will only have a loss of $100-200. An E8400 costs $190, a decent motherboard costs in the realm of $150, 2 2GB sticks of DDR2-800 costs $70, and a 4850 costs $180. A system with these parts will easily run Crysis max settings at the highest of resolutions. (Albeit with AA off, but I personally can deal with AA off if you barely notice the jaggies because of how damn good the game looks anyways)
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