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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
reply to FFH

Re: Who is funding Odlyzko

so your point is what?

the guy is fudging statistics and internet traffic data because he's in the tank with outside interests?

that he's a crooked researcher/academic that is either getting paid under the table or hopes for future remuneration from grateful hardware companies?

as is frequently pointed out but equally frequently ignored, facts have a known liberal bias.



FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
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said by nasadude:

so your point is what?

the guy is fudging statistics and internet traffic data because he's in the tank with outside interests?

that he's a crooked researcher/academic that is either getting paid under the table or hopes for future remuneration from grateful hardware companies?

as is frequently pointed out but equally frequently ignored, facts have a known liberal bias.
Just pointing out that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

If a study backed by AT&T money is AUTOMATICALLY suspect and distrusted, then why should I not suspect a study funded by companies that benefit from the idea that the internet has no bandwidth problems.
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ

I know this will come as a completely foreign concept, but instead of attacking the messenger(s), why not try attacking his data and their conclusions? Perhaps, for all your corporate tubthumping, you have data in hand that might show errors in these reports?

And how, in dog's name, do you come to the conclusion that these companies might profit from debunking the exaflood argument?


nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

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reply to FFH

said by FFH:

Just pointing out that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

If a study backed by AT&T money is AUTOMATICALLY suspect and distrusted, then why should I not suspect a study funded by companies that benefit from the idea that the internet has no bandwidth problems.
I knew you were gandering the goose and all that, but I repeat, facts have a known liberal bias.

the reason ATT is automatically suspect is:

a) they specifically fund astroturf "think tanks" to churn out "studies", op-ed/opinion pieces and other stuff to support industry positions,

b) it has been shown that many past ATT funded studies and articles have been, to put it kindly, pieces of trash

why not do as TScheisskopf suggests and argue on the facts? I can guess why, but I leave that for the reader to figure out.

heyguy2

join:2008-09-03
Beverly Hills, CA
reply to FFH

Hm, I'd trust Odlyzko, before I trust the cable/phone industry in the US. They've been asking for subsidies, tax breaks and surcharges for years, to supposedly build the best network in the world. It was supposed to be here in the early 2000s, then in 2005.

Instead, now we are told they have to cap our usage, or the whole thing will grind to a holt.

I've been a life-long free-market Republican, but these current religious/hypocritical/protectionist trolls, have made a mockery of the free market and the party. And while spending like there is no tomorrow, they have ensured that the US network is stuck in the 1990s, and beholden to a handful of technologically-challenged, bean-counting, government handout-loving cartels.

Local loop competition through unbundling? Not while the "free-market" Bushies are in office. I guess we should hand our money, pray for faster internet to an "intelligent designer" and practice abstinence.

Read and weep: »www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···_pf.html

Phew, got it off my chest....



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reply to TScheisskopf

Who'd of thought TKJ had so many crickets under his personal control.

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TScheisskopf
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