Powerline AV in All Things Unix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21052926 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:24:47 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:24:47 EDT Re: Powerline AV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21079501 anon : Just to note, if your existing WiFi setup died:

1) You're on a bad channel, try 1,6,11 since they tend to not overlap.

2) You've got existing devices on 2.4GHz that are puking on the spectrum, cordless phones are notorious for this, consider a migration to 5GHz phones.

3) You have inadequate positing of the antennas, try horizontal, vertical, or a combination of both if using a diversity antenna.

4) It could be reliability issues with the SOHO device you've selected (if SOHO), try using something that uses a known working radio like Broadcom over Marvell or even Atheros. Alternative firmware running GNU/Linux tends to introduce additional stability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21079501 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:15:05 EDT Re: Powerline AV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21079476 anon : Just to chime in these things generate quite a bit of noise on the HF bands (High Frequency) and interfere with Amateur Radio users. I'd really rather you shoot 802.11b/g/n than turning your inside wiring into a giant HF radiator.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line···nication
»Power Line Adaptors.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21079476 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:11:09 EDT Re: Powerline AV arrived http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21079268 usa2k : House is ~ 35 years old, but in good shape IMO.
The link is just a room away, but the wife likes to rearrange.
The laptop is a Toshiba QOSIMO and a wireless router kept dumping the connection.
I got rid of wireless from the house.

I have a bunch of LINUX machines scattered about and was thinking about them versus lots of wire I've ran ... plus I just like geek things that are new to me.
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said by usa2k See Profile :

Seems to work and the utility says its connected at 57MB. That is OK for what I needed.
Yeah, that's in the draft-N ballpark of 45-80MB actual throughput that I'm getting on the wireless gear I ended up with instead of PLAV.

Weird that they don't support non-Windows stuff, linksys is usually better then that.

Still, glad to hear it works. What's your power like? Are they on the same circuit? Is your wiring fairly new? ( 5, 10, 20 yrs old?)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21078965 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:42:14 EDT Re: Powerline AV arrived http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21078009 usa2k : Well, for now it is connecting an XP Laptop to a switch, and all is well just plugging it in. All at defaults.

To change anything, you need to run their windows utility that did not play nice on Vista64, but worked from the laptop. I think Linux users are out of luck. It is beyond me why the don't have a browser interface?

There are long password strings on the back of each device along with serial number and MAC ID. The password is needed to change the encryption password on each device using the utility program.

The software version via the utility is an eye chart in length. The latest firmware on Linksys site was "PLE200 FW3.3 Rev2 NA.bin". I cannot tell if that is newer or older.

Seems to work and the utility says its connected at 57MB. That is OK for what I needed.
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I am not sure what standard the D-Link used?

Manual

Frequently Asked Questions

What kind of powerline technology does the PowerLine AV Ethernet Adapter use?
• The Adapter uses HomePlug AV technology, which offers superior performance and security than previous HomePlug standards, such HomePlug 1.1 and HomePlug 1.0.

How do HomePlug AV products handle signal interference between two adjacent homes? How is eavesdropping prevented?
• To ensure network separation between homes, HomePlug AV products use 128-bit AES security encryption, which is enabled by default. To encrypt data, this security method uses the Network Password you set using the Configuration Utility. (If you did not set your own Network Password, then it uses the default, HomePlugAV.)

Do HomePlug AV products cause interference with other home networking or powerline products?
• No. The HomePlug AV products can co-exist with wireless, phoneline, and other powerline technologies. HomePlug AV technology operates in a different frequency band than powerline control and can co-exist with technologies such as X-10, CEBus, and LonWorks.

Are HomePlug AV products backwards-compatible with devices using previous HomePlug standards?
• No. HomePlug AV products cannot communicate with devices using previous standards; however, HomePlug AV products can co-exist with devices using previous HomePlug standards, such HomePlug 1.1 and HomePlug 1.0. Linksys recommends using HomePlug AV products for maximum throughput and performance.

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said by usa2k See Profile :

»www.dlink.com/products/resource.···39&sec=0 looks interesting too.

Maybe this should move to »Networking ?
I am using these, work great.
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»I'm shocked at how well Powerline Networking works (Netgear)
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No, they don't work at all in most homes that are not brand new, with excellent wiring, and with the whole house on a single circuit (or at least, all your PL nodes on the same network.

Prepare for a return - you may get lucky (some people do) but results are really mixed.
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I think the only concern was comments about Vista needed ... or something like that? And that seemed to relate to maybe setting them up? I do have Vista, XP, and LINUX so I think I will try it out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055138 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:59:46 EDT Re: Powerline AV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054824 No_Strings : They should work fine. The only driver needed will be one for your wired NIC. No wireless hijinks required. Most of the folks who have posted their experience in the Wireless Networking forum have been pleased with Powerline gear.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054824 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:52:51 EDT Re: Powerline AV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054819 GunnarDanne : Probably no different to the computer than a DHCP cable modem. Just one medium converted to another. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21054819 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:50:28 EDT Re: Powerline AV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21053776 usa2k : »www.dlink.com/products/resource.···39&sec=0 looks interesting too.

Maybe this should move to »Networking ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21053776 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:54:47 EDT Powerline AV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21052926 usa2k : Are these computer agnostic?
Will they work with LINUX?
Anybody using them on Linux?

Thinking about »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···33124096

Minimum Requirements:
PC, Notebook, or Media Device Equipped with an Ethernet Port
CD-ROM Drive
Windows 2000, XP, or 2003 Server
Additional PLE200 for PowerLine AV Networking

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