i dont agree with that in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21057112 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:07:51 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:07:51 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062271 funchords :
said by Cheese See Profile :

said by Corydon See Profile :

Besides, as Karl pointed out, if their content didn't charge against the cap, Netflix, Apple and everyone else trying to break into this business would cry foul. And the FCC would probably back them up.
I don't see this in his article anywhere...

And second, why would Apple or anyone else care if it went against CC download caps or not? They aren't in that business.
It's in this part...
said by Karl's article... :

If you're curious, Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas tells me the service will count against the company's 250GB per month bandwidth cap -- a move that certainly saves them from loads of grief from network neutrality supporters.
The cap is part of Comcast's network management efforts, so they probably do have to apply it fairly so that services like iTunes, NetFlix, Hulu and Amazon can compete with Fancast for your business.

But keep in mind that the 250 GB cap will only be enforced upon you if you are also one of Comcast's top 1,000 users systemwide (the Invisicap). If you've used 250 GB, and want to watch a movie, I'd say watch the movie. For the past year or so, the people getting the calls have been running north of 400 GB.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062271 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:18:45 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061825 Cheese :
said by Corydon See Profile :

Besides, as Karl pointed out, if their content didn't charge against the cap, Netflix, Apple and everyone else trying to break into this business would cry foul. And the FCC would probably back them up.
I don't see this in his article anywhere...

And second, why would Apple or anyone else care if it went against CC download caps or not? They aren't in that business. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061825 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:59:35 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061774 NOZIREV : i still dont agree with "Not too hard to figure out." and it has nothing to do with figuring it out but thanks for throwing that in there. besides karl has enough brown noses.
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"Citius, Altius, Fortius" [Faster, Higher, Stronger]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061774 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:51:22 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061752 NOZIREV : i dont think that you are understanding what i am trying to say it has nothing to do with you subscribing to tv or not it has to do with paying for the 250 gb's and also paying for the movie that you are getting from them. if you are getting the movie from them and paying for it then it should not count against the cap as well but if you were getting the movie from someone esle then its free game.
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"Citius, Altius, Fortius" [Faster, Higher, Stronger]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061752 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:48:08 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059116 funchords :
said by Cheese See Profile :

I would agree with the first part of your comment if the file was being downloaded from a 3rd party, but to download it from the company who is also providing the internet to your location, and them charging for the movie/tv show and then to have it COUNT AGAINST the download caps? That's ridiculous.
You do realize that your comcast.net stuff, your email, accessing your own personal web page hosted on mysite.home.comcast.net -- all of this applies on the cap.

The $1.99 per episode or 3.99 per movie that you would pay is not only to pay for Fancast's bandwidth (which amounts to a minor fraction), but to pay the license fee charged by the studios for PPV, and -- of course -- margin.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059116 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:26:18 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059027 Cheese :
said by Corydon See Profile :

It's just the same as everywhere else. You pay for the movie and then you pay for the means to deliver it.

If you consider this to be like Amazon, you pay once for the media (the book, song, movie, whatever) and once to get that media from Amazon to you (shipping charges, bandwidth, whatever).

Not too hard to figure out.

Besides, as Karl pointed out, if their content didn't charge against the cap, Netflix, Apple and everyone else trying to break into this business would cry foul. And the FCC would probably back them up.

Personally, I'd guess that Fancast will end up much like their Video On Demand service. Plenty of free (ad-supported) content, some perhaps only accessible for free to Comcast TV subscribers, with the newest stuff being pay-per-view.
I would agree with the first part of your comment if the file was being downloaded from a 3rd party, but to download it from the company who is also providing the internet to your location, and them charging for the movie/tv show and then to have it COUNT AGAINST the download caps? That's ridiculous. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059027 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:06:30 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057327 funchords :
said by NOZIREV See Profile :

"the service will count against the company's 250GB per month bandwidth cap" why should you have to pay for it twice
You're not paying for it twice. It's not a replacement for TV or your VCR/DVR.

You would pay for an episode, presumably, because you're not a TV subscriber.

So far, the two things I've tried were free (they just didn't work and failed to give a useful error message -- turning off AdBlock Plus helped).
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057327 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:09:55 EDT Re: i dont agree with that http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057285 Corydon : It's just the same as everywhere else. You pay for the movie and then you pay for the means to deliver it.

If you consider this to be like Amazon, you pay once for the media (the book, song, movie, whatever) and once to get that media from Amazon to you (shipping charges, bandwidth, whatever).

Not too hard to figure out.

Besides, as Karl pointed out, if their content didn't charge against the cap, Netflix, Apple and everyone else trying to break into this business would cry foul. And the FCC would probably back them up.

Personally, I'd guess that Fancast will end up much like their Video On Demand service. Plenty of free (ad-supported) content, some perhaps only accessible for free to Comcast TV subscribers, with the newest stuff being pay-per-view.
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