Re: When Free means Fee! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21058675 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:40:18 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:40:18 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21060617 iansltx : In which case I applaud your thrift. I like watching movies streamed from my own router-attached hard disk, or maybe backing stuff up online, or downloading large MP3 albums (for the college radio station I work at). So basically I take all the speed I can get, as long as the rice is below, oh, $70 a month. I also use VoIP over the connection, and the savings of VoIP alone pays for some of that conection cost.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21060617 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:37:12 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059144 Mr Matt : :o I made the comment because of the title of the article: Cablevision Lights Up Free Wi-Fi
A more accurate title would be "Cablevision lights up Wi-Fi access to subscribers at no charge."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059144 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:19 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058857 Bobcat :
said by iansltx See Profile :

Then your DSL should suit you well. It's cheap but it's not fast.
It does. $32/month for 3 Mbps / 768 kbps. That's fast enough. I can download a movie in a little over a half hour. I have no need for anything faster.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058857 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:42:08 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058675 iansltx : Then your DSL should suit you well. It's cheap but it's not fast. Problem is, DSL around here is neither cheap nor fast...starts at $40/month for a 1.5 connection!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058675 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:13:22 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058385 yolarry : gotta love the hidden fees]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058385 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:24:04 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057436 zachary1 : Shit, pigs CAN fly! I just saw one!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057436 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:29:08 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057113 dbmaven : :uhh:
It is a free addition to the existing schedule/properties of the service.

Or, bandying the semantics a different way - it's a free addition to the service, or is "now included at no extra charge". Spin it any way you want. From a marketing perspective it's free.
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Living in "an optimized state of temporary chaos"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21057113 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:31:20 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056981 Bobcat :
said by iansltx See Profile :

Your DSL is slow. FiOS is 10/2 with a contract. OOL is $45 with no contract.
Whether CV is faster or has free included WiFi is irrelevant to me, as I can't afford $540 per year for their service.

I don't want faster, I want cheaper.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056981 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:06:16 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056797 grandpinaple : DSL Optimum online

Optimum online is 15/2 which beats 10/2. The difference is 2 dollars in price. When you are talking about bundling discounts it is cheaper for most people since they usually want cable TV service and voip. I don't recall people getting a bundling discount with Verizon if they chose voip over POTS. FIOS definately wins out in the higher speed tiers though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056797 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:30:47 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056718 iansltx : Your DSL is slow. FiOS is 10/2 with a contract. OOL is $45 with no contract. They cost the same as any other cable company, $45 for regular internet, $60 for faster speed. Regular speed is 15/2, faser is 30+/5. I'm paying $63 + modem rental for a Comcast connection that isn't even as fast as the lower-end Cablevision tier. Seriously, they're overpriced? THey provide more for your money!

I for one think doing a muni WiFi network for customers of your service is a fine idea, and 1.5 Mbit symmetric service wherever is enough to get most things done. Most AT&T/T-Mobile hotspots don't get up to that speed. Basically the premise is this: with FiOS you get internet to one location. Sure it's wicked fast but it's also a little on the expensive side and once you get out of your own WiFi coverage you're gone. ith CableVision you can move into an "extended service area" where you still have internet, without having to buy any extra equipment. Sounds like a win to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056718 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:15:39 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056553 Bobcat :
said by grandpinaple See Profile :

How is it overpriced. It is cheaper than Fios and cheaper than most other services across the country.
My DSL is $32 per month. FiOS is $43 per month. OOL is $45 per month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056553 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:38:27 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056542 Bobcat :
said by dbmaven See Profile :

Read, slowly....

Free WiFi access exclusively for Optimum Online customers in thousands of convenient locations.

They never said: "Free to anyone".

If you are a subscriber, and you don't pay anything 'extra', and you can access this WiFi network, then to you - it indeed is "FREE".
It's not "free". It's "included". There's a difference.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056542 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:36:11 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056386 grandpinaple : How is it overpriced. It is cheaper than Fios and cheaper than most other services across the country.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056386 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:02:26 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056361 anon :
said by Mr Matt See Profile :

:uhh: If Cablevision's Wi-Fi was truly free you would not have to be a Cablevision Broadband Subscriber to use their Wi-Fi Network. In this case you have to be paying for a Broadband Connection in order to use their Wi-Fi Network. Therefore there Wi-Fi Service is not free!
I fail to see your point? They are adding Wi-Fi for THEIR customers at no extra cost. That = free to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21056361 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:01:58 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055554 dbmaven : Read, slowly....

Free WiFi access exclusively for Optimum Online customers in thousands of convenient locations.

They never said: "Free to anyone".

If you are a subscriber, and you don't pay anything 'extra', and you can access this WiFi network, then to you - it indeed is "FREE".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055554 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:11:02 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055518 patcat88 :
said by Mr Matt See Profile :

:uhh: If Cablevision's Wi-Fi was truly free you would not have to be a Cablevision Broadband Subscriber to use their Wi-Fi Network. In this case you have to be paying for a Broadband Connection in order to use their Wi-Fi Network. Therefore there Wi-Fi Service is not free!
They can make it an additional fee in addition to your OOL fee if you want.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055518 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:02:06 EDT Re: When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055512 Bobcat : OOL is overpriced to begin with. This service is not free, it's expensive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055512 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:01:14 EDT When Free means Fee! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055493 Mr Matt : :uhh: If Cablevision's Wi-Fi was truly free you would not have to be a Cablevision Broadband Subscriber to use their Wi-Fi Network. In this case you have to be paying for a Broadband Connection in order to use their Wi-Fi Network. Therefore there Wi-Fi Service is not free!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21055493 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:56:09 EDT