Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21059096 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:52:54 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:52:54 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063625 kamm :
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said by disc See Profile :

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data.
Yes, but is UMTS voice something for the industry to get excited about? I think the reason these types of stats are thrown out is because everyone is looking to data to be the next revenue generator.
Well alot of people have 3G phones, but using them for voice only. Not knowing or caring that they are 3g
I don't know what you mean by "lot of people" but it's unlikely - if you list the phones on att.com or tmo.com most are still 2G only...
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[/BQUOTE]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063625 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:11:12 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063614 kamm :
said by DaveNJ See Profile :

If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice.
Wrong. GSM is clearly 2G while UMTS is W-CDMA = 3G

In fact all you have to do is check most WM phones: you can select if you want to use WCDMA/UMTS/3G or stick with GSM by default for voice.
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[/BQUOTE]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063614 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:02:47 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063215 DaveNJ :
said by disc See Profile :

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data.
Yes, but is UMTS voice something for the industry to get excited about? I think the reason these types of stats are thrown out is because everyone is looking to data to be the next revenue generator.
Well alot of people have 3G phones, but using them for voice only. Not knowing or caring that they are 3g
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063215 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:47:20 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062760 disc :
said by DaveNJ See Profile :

If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data.
Yes, but is UMTS voice something for the industry to get excited about? I think the reason these types of stats are thrown out is because everyone is looking to data to be the next revenue generator.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062760 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:42:51 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061394 DaveNJ : If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21061394 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:23:38 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059096 EPS : Good point... especially when you consider Alltel into the mix.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21059096 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:20:38 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058986 en102 : True... but I don't think that '3' makes up ~50% of European users.
Verizon + Sprint CDMA 1x/EVDO ~= AT&T + TMobile GSM/3G
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Canada = Hollywood North]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058986 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:58:42 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058674 EPS : Some European carriers are similar, in that most of the phones they sell are 3G-capable- the biggest example of this is the company "3", which only operates 3G networks and doesn't even have 2G.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058674 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:12:57 EDT Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058634 en102 : Yeah ... there's a huge difference in devices/technology.

U.S. CDMA (Verizon / Sprint) probably have +3/4 of their devices with CDMA EVDO (3G). AT&T has --
Canada = Hollywood North]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058634 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:07:30 EDT yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058504 disc : What's tricky about the ComScore stats, is that it likely includes subs who have the nice 3G phone, but don't use 3G service.

Stats on subs who actually use a 3G service, are all over the place. It's hard to get a real read on that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21058504 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:45:17 EDT