Noah Vail
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Lorton, VA
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ISP's as Pirates?
Everything that comes about as a direct result of my efforts is my creation; whether I copyright it or not. That includes my purchase and credit histories, things that indicate my personal interests, and anything I have openly or privately communicated.
Any company who profits on my creation
without paying me the royalties I am due
is pirating my created material.
As such, they are every bit as subject to RIAA style fines, as the folks I see accused of piracy here.
NV
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EPS
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Hingham, MA
| You agreed to it, though. The ISP will send you the little slip attached to your bill informing you of the change to the terms of service, and by continuing to use the internet you agree to the change. After all, the company reserves the right to change these terms at any time. Best you can hope for is that if you're on contract the change will be enough to let you out. (And then you can go back to dialup, since all other broadband ISPs are also doing it!) |
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SillyRabbit
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| said by EPS  :You agreed to it, though. The ISP will send you the little slip attached to your bill informing you of the change to the terms of service, and by continuing to use the internet you agree to the change. After all, the company reserves the right to change these terms at any time. Best you can hope for is that if you're on contract the change will be enough to let you out. (And then you can go back to dialup, since all other broadband ISPs are also doing it!) Many states do NOT allow you to agree to something like this just because they post it. It's kind of like an insurance comapny writing you a check and on the back it says " By cashing this check, you agree that this matter is settled.". It doesn't fly. You should have to actively agree to something like this. Nope, nope, nope. It's obvious you are on the dark side!!! |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | But that's how they propagate changes to the TOS already, isn't it?
I'm not sure what you mean by the "dark side", though... |
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kontos
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said by Noah Vail :Everything that comes about as a direct result of my efforts is my creation; whether I copyright it or not. That includes my purchase and credit histories, things that indicate my personal interests, and anything I have openly or privately communicated. That's a pretty warped view of Copyright. By your logic, you would argue that you own the copyright to my reply to your post. I mean this post is a direct result of your effort of writing that crazy rant. |
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Kylemaul
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1 edit | Warped but valid nonetheless. This is really how warped the concept of copyright has become, especially when it comes to the **AA's. And you have warped it one step further by saying that your work is now under NV's copyright. I believe his point was that your post would still be under your copyright, regardless of whether or not it is in response to another post.
Now THAT's twisted. 
edit: Almost as twisted as the brand obfuscation going on as a result of the Olympics.  |
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Noah Vail
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said by kontos :That's a pretty warped view of Copyright. By your logic, you would argue that you own the copyright to my reply to your post. I mean this post is a direct result of your effort of writing that crazy rant. Your post would be better defined as a collaboration, as is this one. You are as due royalties as any columnist, lecturer or artist is.
That is, you are due royalties on the material that others have profited on. My expectations are more lenient than those who expect a royalty payment for copying a page from a music book for use in a free church production.
I guess to be more in harmony with those who profit from copyright laws, I could demand payment for any reproduction of a creation of mine.
NV
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Kylemaul
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| said by Noah Vail :I guess to be more in harmony with those who profit from copyright laws, I could demand payment for any reproduction of a creation of mine. Where do I send my 2 cents again?  |
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Noah Vail
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Lorton, VA
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| said by Kylemaul :Where do I send my 2 cents again? Since I didn't provide my expressed, written permission for you to auto-quote me, I'm going to have to fine you $175,000 per word of infringement; against my undeniable calculations of lost income.
My attorney will be in touch.
NV
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