djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
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1 edit | reply to cornelius785
Re: Why provide a Rolls-Royce when a Chevrolet will do?
He's mostly referring to ATM overhead, not PPPoE overhead. Typical ATM+PPPoE DSL circuits have an overhead that is quite close to 85%. He got his facts a little wrong but he's hardly smoking crack. 
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | reply to dvd536
put down the crack pipe dude. the overhead is less than a percent (1492/1500*100=0.5333...). nowhere near 85%. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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said by en102  : quote:
Qwest is on "the other side of municipally backed telecom projects" mostly because "of the long-term harm to consumers." Back in 2003, Fenn asked the question: "Why provide a Rolls-Royce when a Chevrolet will do?"
Because Qwest is charging Rolls-Royce pricing for their Chevrolet. I don't think the average user cares that its 50Mbps vs 12Mbps... they will care if they are being charged more for their 12Mbps after bundling than others pay for 50Mbps. Lets see... $39.95 for symmetrical 50Mbps service or $42.95 for 12Mbps/896kbps AFTER having to pay for voice service, bringing it past $60 Don't forget the 15% PPPoE penalty you'll pay with that tired old protocol so that shiny new 12000/896 is really 10200/762 and thats assuming PERFECT SERVICE which we all know doesn't exist on qworst[qwest].
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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said by Halo5 :This is pretty much the mind set of most American businesses now days it seems. "How can we provide as little as possible and charge as much as possible"? This is the trickle down theory....since most Telco/cablecos are doing it, theres no incentive to give the consumer anything else. This status quo also preserves future rate increases. |
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Halo5
join:2000-07-20
Dayton, OH
clubs:  | reply to en102
This is pretty much the mind set of most American businesses now days it seems.
"How can we provide as little as possible and charge as much as possible"? |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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Qwest is on "the other side of municipally backed telecom projects" mostly because "of the long-term harm to consumers." Back in 2003, Fenn asked the question: "Why provide a Rolls-Royce when a Chevrolet will do?"
Because Qwest is charging Rolls-Royce pricing for their Chevrolet. I don't think the average user cares that its 50Mbps vs 12Mbps... they will care if they are being charged more for their 12Mbps after bundling than others pay for 50Mbps.
Lets see...
$39.95 for symmetrical 50Mbps service
or
$42.95 for 12Mbps/896kbps AFTER having to pay for voice service, bringing it past $60
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