what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only in OptimumOnline http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21062272 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:29:42 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:29:42 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21138237 Subaru : I will try and get a picture when im out and about tomorrow]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21138237 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:56:56 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21138088 TheWiseGuy : That picture matches the one I used earlier this week. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21138088 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:29:31 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137467 Subaru :
said by limegrass69 See Profile :

I've seen tons of the Optimum wi-fi access points mounted aerially on the Cablevision lines. They look like signal amps with either little panel or whip antennae (or both). I am not sure what they're doing in areas with buried utilities.

Here is a photo...»www.cablerant.com/resources/misc···lair.jpg
wow that's not the type I seen.. The type I seen was right under the signal amp and just looks like a single sector antenna.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137467 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:07 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21114762 anon : This is no secret since CV wants us to spread the word. For those who want more answers regarding Optimum WiFi go to www.optimumwifi.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21114762 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:44:22 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113630 limegrass69 : I've seen tons of the Optimum wi-fi access points mounted aerially on the Cablevision lines. They look like signal amps with either little panel or whip antennae (or both). I am not sure what they're doing in areas with buried utilities.

Here is a photo...»www.cablerant.com/resources/misc···lair.jpg]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113630 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:34:43 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113197 Subaru : question one of the areas I work at when doing a network scann optimumwifi showed up are they installing these in the alpha boxes or how are they doing it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113197 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:19:33 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111252 WaitinginNH : I dont see anything wrong that, they have to keep their OOL customers. The WiFi wouldn't be a bad backup esp when the regular OOL goes down.
This is critical in keeping OOL customers from switching to Fios, because Verizon doesn't offer any free WiFi service for its customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111252 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:14:28 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21110436 jaa : "screen name" is identical to "email account" without the @optonline.net on the end. When you create a new "screen name" they call it adding an email acocunt.

AFAIK there is no restriction on simultaneous wi-fi logons with the same email account.
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said by jaa See Profile :

I meant one computer per email account at a time. You can use 30 different computers, but one at a time. You can use wi-fi at the same time as your spouse and 3 children - each with a different email account.
Is that one of the published restrictions? Someone (a CV tech?) on this thread said you logon with a "screen name", which is not the same as an email address. Besides, I could let my whole family share a single email address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21107305 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:46:10 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21107174 jaa : I meant one computer per email account at a time. You can use 30 different computers, but one at a time. You can use wi-fi at the same time as your spouse and 3 children - each with a different email account.

That still does not prevent "sharing" of email accounts with a friend, but it would stop someone from posting an account on the internet and letting everyone use it. As soon as OOL detects simultaneous logons for a particular email account, they could disable it for wifi access.
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said by jaa See Profile :

said by Bobcat See Profile :

I just think the potential for abuse is tremendous. And I don't see any way CV could catch someone doing that.
Simultaneous logons with the same account.
But there's nothing wrong with that. One account can have more than one computer. Maybe I use one at home, spouse uses one at work, kids using the WiFi at their friends houses or school -- all simultaneously, and all permitted. Another example: Four computers in one house will look exactly the same to the network as four neighbors sharing the same account.

So how can they tell the difference between these examples and abuse? I don't think they can.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21107150 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:04:00 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21106411 jaa :
said by Bobcat See Profile :

I just think the potential for abuse is tremendous. And I don't see any way CV could catch someone doing that.
Simultaneous logons with the same account.
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gee did I forget the .22 cents per remote]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102482 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:21:54 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102381 StudioTech :
said by rhard49 See Profile :

You'd be ticked if customers who pay them 130-140 a month for other services were to receive occaisional free wifi.
I find it hard to believe that there are CV customers paying $130-$140 a month without OOL included in that price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102381 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:43:20 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21101197 anon : Cablevision's WiFi is being launched first in Nassau County then everywhere else in the next few months. It will be available to all Optimum Online(OOL) customers for free. All you will need is your Optimum Online screenname and password to log in wherever it's available. It's an extension of home services. Think about it. If you have a Wifi capable phone, laptop or PDA, Cablevision WiFi means much needed competition against Verizon and Sprint with their high web service fees. It's just another win for consumers the way VOIP drastically lowered home phone rates. Yeah, of course it helps keep old customers and gain new customers to OOL but it proves competition is good for all of us.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21101197 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:22:38 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21066069 La Luna :
said by rhard49 See Profile :

You'd be ticked if customers who pay them 130-140 a month for other services were to receive occaisional free wifi. get a life, its a marketing tool to produce loyalty or make the services more attractive I think they are missing the point, and will alienate cablsvision customers.
Umm, I DO pay for other CV services, my life is complete, thanks.

Maybe people who don't use the services you pay for should get them for free?
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said by rhard49 See Profile :

I'm a FIOS customer and the possibility of wifi access was enoigh to stay with them for TV services the regular internet service was a PITA (Stirring the pot)
looks like it is time for you to get fios tv. just get an evdo card and you will be all set - no need for optimum wifi and you will have much better coverage.
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said by rhard49 See Profile :

I'm a FIOS customer and the possibility of wifi access was enoigh to stay with them for TV services the regular internet service was a PITA (Stirring the pot)
So you're using the service that provides the best value to you, which is what everyone should be doing. The benefit of the reliability you experience with FIOS obviously outweighs the benefit of having free wi-fi.. I just dont understand why you are surprised that as a non-Internet customer of theirs, you think they should be providing wi-fi access just because you pay them a lot of money for your TV service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064994 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:34:07 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064959 rhard49 : I'm a FIOS customer and the possibility of wifi access was enoigh to stay with them for TV services the regular internet service was a PITA (Stirring the pot)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064959 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:28:50 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064395 RickNY :
said by rhard49 See Profile :

You'd be ticked if customers who pay them 130-140 a month for other services were to receive occaisional free wifi.
Dont be ridiculous.. If you want the perks that go with the service, then get the damn service.. That would be like Verizon Wireless giving me free text messaging on my Sprint phone just because I had a Verizon landline.

It already makes the services more attractive by encouraging customers to sign up for all of their products.. Why should they reward you because you took your Internet business to their competition? Loyalty is when a customer is signed up for all of their services, and they reward those customers with things like this and other perks such as free movie tickets, etc.

Believe me -- if a FIOS customer was able to get free wi-fi from Cablevision just because they also subscribed to Cablevision's TV service, that FIOS customer has no incentive whatsoever to jump back to OOL for their Internet.

You say it will alienate customers? Yes, you are exactly right -- I would be alienated if I, as a paying Internet customer, got the same free wi-fi service as a non-paying FIOS customer (or customer of any other ISP for that matter)

Rick]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064395 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:45:45 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064229 rhard49 : You'd be ticked if customers who pay them 130-140 a month for other services were to receive occaisional free wifi. get a life, its a marketing tool to produce loyalty or make the services more attractive I think they are missing the point, and will alienate cablsvision customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064229 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:24:24 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064182 La Luna : I'd be ticked if non OOL customers got free wifi. OOL customers are the ones who are paying for internet service, not those who just use iO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21064182 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:16:01 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063783 rhard49 : Yes I also saw the original press releases which led me to believe it would be free to cablevision customers not just OOL customers. It would be nice to have but I don;t use enough wifi anywhere but my home network for it to matter. But they should consider it made me pause from switching entirely to fios ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063783 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:14:28 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063081 chronoss2008 : Doesn't bell canada tell you to goto starbucks and get free wifi?
Don't you guys have starbucks there?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21063081 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:24:20 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062761 Datcyde : I like the fact that there doing this. I get to go to the movies for free on tuesdays and any other day is $6, I have my caller ID on my TV, Free POP3 email, a Free website, and soon I'll have free wifi. Not to mention my internet with boost is good enough for me. So why should I move to Fios?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062761 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:42:56 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062700 GeekNJ :
said by rhard49 See Profile :

Why wouldn't you offer it to your io subscribers.
I guess the same reason they don't offer free io to OOL subscribers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062700 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:32:59 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062654 majortom1029 : If you have an optonline email address then you can use it. Thats how they authenticate you.

If you dont have one then dont complain. Its a perk for having the internet service. Its a way to differentiate themselves from fios. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062654 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:22:04 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062646 TheWiseGuy : LOL, I was just thinking of that logic. ;) It really is a different type of wireless then a hotspot. You don't need to be in a very specific location, ie hotspot, if you are in the OOL network area. Given the price of monthly hotspots access, for anyone who really needed wireless it could be a good bargain.
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said by TheWiseGuy See Profile :

It is interesting that the newer reports state that they will not offer it to Non-OOL subscribers for a fee and the original at least here at dslreports said they would offer it for a fee to non-subscribers. They probably decided that it might eat into their OOL subscriber base.
I think they offer it at $45/mo for IO subscribers, and throw in free OOL. :)
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said by rhard49 See Profile :

Why wouldn't you offer it to your io subscribers.
Why would you? The goal is to build and retain business for OOL, not give away your products to customers that don't want to pay for your internet service. For non-OOL customers, there are plenty of providers that offer paid hotspots.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062589 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:12:35 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062576 TheWiseGuy : It is interesting that the newer reports state that they will not offer it to Non-OOL subscribers for a fee and the original at least here at dslreports said they would offer it for a fee to non-subscribers. They probably decided that it might eat into their OOL subscriber base.
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said by rhard49 See Profile :

Why wouldn't you offer it to your io subscribers.
The same pea brain that probably said in meetings "hey, free wi-fi for our OOL users. Thats a great way to keep OOL customers, and offer more service over other providers!"

Makes sense to me :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062312 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:28:04 EDT Re: what pea brain decided wifi for ool users only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21062303 TheWiseGuy : Because OOL subscribers pay CV for Internet use, :) if they provided free wi-fi to iO subscribers, a lot if users might cancel their OOL. ;) It is supposed to be a way for those who use OOL to access the Internet with a wireless connection, even when they are not at home. Also why would they want to provide free internet use to people who subscribe to another ISP. :) I suggest you get your Internet provider to provide wi-fi for you. ;)
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