 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
Re: Yep... business as usual said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Karl Bode:Yes Tom, it's consumers who demand clarity and accountability that are the problem. Clearly.  It wasn't the average consumer demanding it. They weren't affected and were not aware of any problem. It was the well above average abusers demanding the clarification and a hard cap. Well now they get to pay for what they wanted and got. Dave Winer was an abuser? How so?
There's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anyone who has been kicked off of the service abused it.
It was the top 1,000 users of bandwidth. This list was from across the system, not just from nodes with trouble reports, or highly-congested segments, or from observed complaints from other systems to the abuse@comcast desk! The only thing that kind of system protects is Comcast's loss from such a consumer -- and that's perfectly fine, but it has to be disclosed.
There was nothing in the TOS that covered kicking off users for being one of the top 1,000 users of bandwidth. Comcast didn't even check if they interfered with or impacted anybody == so they can't use that excuse.
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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Minneapolis, MN
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| said by funchords:Dave Winer was an abuser? How so? He was warned weeks before they cut him off, and he's clearly tapped into online news to have drawn a reasonable conclusion about what the caps were.
True, Comcast official comments to him about usage were vague, but he would have needed to have been living in a cave (which is contradictory to his tech-savvy persona) to have not seen enough data to reasonably estimate the caps.
IMO, this one is a stalemate. |
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | said by espaeth:said by funchords:Dave Winer was an abuser? How so? He was warned weeks before they cut him off, [...] IMO, this one is a stalemate. I agree that a warning does help, but it doesn't color Dave Winer as an abuser.
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