Topic 'Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now?' in forum 'Canadian Broadband' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065416 en Fri, 24 May 2013 10:30:41 EDT Fri, 24 May 2013 10:30:41 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21165000 said by wayjac:

Can you post a screen capture of the home page of the flashed modem
Posted in this thread:
»Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21165000 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:29:20 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21164263 »Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21164263 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:19:55 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21162834 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21162834 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:50:26 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21158417 MDC and everything is accessible!

I found some firmware on the net and flashed the Bell modem and now everything works fine. :)

Thanks all for the help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21158417 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:42:45 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21100214 said by Majoram:

What I am thinking is if there is a way to override the Gateway from being used for DNS.
Setting the Primary and Secondary DNS on the computer is not enough. What other DNS settings are there that I can set on my computer?
You can use the ip address that avoids all dns servers entirely.
dslreports ip address: 209.123.109.175
google ip address: 64.233.167.99

said by Majoram:

I still sorta think the 2wire has something to do with it though. Because the request for the Bell setup page has to sent out from the 2wire anyway.
You've right the 2wire can be programed by 2wire with the registration web site ip address. If you connect the bell 2wire again take note of the wan ip, wan gateway ip and the dns ip

If you reset the bell 2wire to factory defaults does it have a username and password?
said by Majoram:

Setting the Primary and Secondary DNS on the computer is not enough. What other DNS settings are there that I can set on my computer?
Setting dns ip's on the computers tcp/ip properties should overrule dns settings elsewhere.
dns ip: 4.2.2.2]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21100214 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:25:14 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21097496 said by wayjac:

I think the browser redirect is being done by bell, at&t does something similar but only with the default username/password stored in the at&t 2wire.

In another thread you said:
said by Majoram:

I got a new Bell 2wire to try out. I put in my Teksavvy username/password and it connects just fine and I can ping sites or torrent etc but I cannot access ANY website via IE or Firefox.
That made me think the 2wire was doing the redirects. But after looking at the bell new user page I sure the browser redirect is bell's doing.
I still sorta think the 2wire has something to do with it though. Because the request for the Bell setup page has to sent out from the 2wire anyway.

What I am thinking is if there is a way to override the Gateway from being used for DNS.

Setting the Primary and Secondary DNS on the computer is not enough. What other DNS settings are there that I can set on my computer?

said by andyb:

Without having one I can't say.I'd just hookup the router and enter the user/pass in that instead if it's bridged.
Problem there is that I can't set the 2wire to be Bridged as the MDC is locked and that's the only place to set to Bridge mode.

said by andyb:

Is there a setup wizard in the modem?If so there maybe a way to change some things in it?
Yes but the setup wizard is nothing. It just asks for username and password and that's it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21097496 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:30:22 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21094479
In another thread you said:
said by Majoram:

I got a new Bell 2wire to try out. I put in my Teksavvy username/password and it connects just fine and I can ping sites or torrent etc but I cannot access ANY website via IE or Firefox.
That made me think the 2wire was doing the redirects. But after looking at the bell new user page I sure the browser redirect is bell's doing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21094479 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:51:56 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093236 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093236 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:10:03 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093227 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093227 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:08:45 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093068 said by andyb:

Thats the url of the 2-wire.It means its getting dns from the 2wire
How can I manually override it though?

Even when manually setting the DNS on my comp, the Gateway still has to be 192.168.2.1 which is the 2wire modem. And thus it still forwards to the Bell page.

Must be some way to change that the gateway is not used for DNS lookup??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093068 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:34:05 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093056 said by andyb:

I would assume holding in the reset button for 5 to 10 seconds would do it.I don't have one to test with thou.
Tried resetting, nothing happened. All the settings were back to default and the current key remained intact. It didn't ask for a new key.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093056 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:31:33 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093024 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093024 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:23:59 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093006 said by wayjac:

Thanks for posting the bell 2wire pages.

If you changed the dns ip's in the 2wire that may not help.
You should try changing the dns on the computer.

The 2wire will do dns relay when a computers connected to it use its lan ip for dns ip.
The 2wire will play the role of a dns server, dns requests are checked against the 2wire dns name table if there's no match the request is forwarded to the ISP's DNS server.
Tried changing it both in the TCP/IP properties and on the 2wire.
Still the same problem.

I noticed though that in IPconfig, there is:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gateway.2wire.net

What is that setting?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21093006 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:20:51 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21089329
If you changed the dns ip's in the 2wire that may not help.
You should try changing the dns on the computer.

The 2wire will do dns relay when a computers connected to it use its lan ip for dns ip.
The 2wire will play the role of a dns server, dns requests are checked against the 2wire dns name table if there's no match the request is forwarded to the ISP's DNS server.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21089329 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:46:38 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086887 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086887 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:26:24 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086846 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086846 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:16:20 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086840 said by andyb:

Have you tried resetting it and using some of the keys from 2 wire to activate it?

»www.2wire.com/index.php?p=268
No how do you reset it? Just a plain reset with the reset button?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086840 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:15:05 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086836 said by andyb:

I know that lol but why isn't it working?
Lol sorry - just tired.
Technically everything works except web surfing.

Every site just gets redirected to that Bell Registration page and I already tried manually entering the DNS etc.

Though I notice when I try hard coding the gateway, the Gateway IP disappears when I try to save.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086836 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:14:14 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086826
»www.2wire.com/index.php?p=268]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086826 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:12:04 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086813 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086813 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:08:43 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086796 said by corkyy:

Majoram I'm 100% shure you don't need to register on the webpage( I had it), there is a workaround and I don't remember.

Could you check the dsn automaticaly set on the computer and the router? If you see "2wire" somewhere, replace it.

I think it was that, but It's been 4-5 month since I did it.
The dsn? DNS? I've checked the DNS and manually configured them. No luck. Any chance you can find that workaround again??

said by corkyy:

I Found on the net ( don't remember where ) that 2wire 2700, 2701 ( I had 2701HG-G) could be but on debug mode by dooing a short on pins 1-2-14 of the 14 pin jtag connector inside the modem...

It was working, the ip was 10.10.(dont remember the end) and dhcp was disabled as stated in the forum where I found that.

In the debug mode, there is suposely a way to remove all bell crap, but I had only 4 days before sending back the modem to sympatico and I didn't got able to found out how.

At job I have like 10 sympatico 2wire for sale, I'll put one on debug during next to see if there is really no way to but out bell out of them, But last time, I was, AGAIN, blocked at the MDC page...
Yeah I heard about the debug mode too and I looked into it. All there is just info on how to get debug mode. No one knows what to do after that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086796 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:04:45 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086782
Here are the other pages you asked about.

2wire homepage



2wire Settings


Page I get when trying to browse:



]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086782 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:00:32 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086761 said by andyb:

No not off hand.Why isn't it working with bell?
I'm not with Bell :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086761 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:53:58 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086760 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086760 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:53:17 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086667 said by andyb:

What is the full model number?There are some firmware out there for some models for other isp's that aint as crappy as bell's
It's a 2701HG-G. I checked but couldn't find any other firmware. Do you have any sites in mind?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21086667 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:27:27 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21068066 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21068066 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:43:40 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21067546
Could you check the dsn automaticaly set on the computer and the router? If you see "2wire" somewhere, replace it.

I think it was that, but It's been 4-5 month since I did it.

The biggest problem with the bell firmwire is that "bridge mode" is locked out.

I Found on the net ( don't remember where ) that 2wire 2700, 2701 ( I had 2701HG-G) could be but on debug mode by dooing a short on pins 1-2-14 of the 14 pin jtag connector inside the modem...

It was working, the ip was 10.10.(dont remember the end) and dhcp was disabled as stated in the forum where I found that.

In the debug mode, there is suposely a way to remove all bell crap, but I had only 4 days before sending back the modem to sympatico and I didn't got able to found out how.

At job I have like 10 sympatico 2wire for sale, I'll put one on debug during next to see if there is really no way to but out bell out of them, But last time, I was, AGAIN, blocked at the MDC page...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21067546 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:25:51 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21066023 said by Majoram:

The page I get when trying to browse to a website?
Any other pages?
Thanks, Monday is cool.
The home page of the 2wire
The page you get when trying to browse to a website
The page you get when trying to browse to the 2wire mdc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21066023 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:51:57 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065986 said by wayjac:

Can you post a image of the "Bell 2wire Setup Wizard webpage".
I sure would like to see it.
The page I get when trying to browse to a website?

Not a problem but I'm at work now and won't get a chance until Monday.

Any other pages?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065986 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:44:52 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065932 I sure would like to see it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065932 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:34:45 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065903 said by wayjac:

The wireless and the four port ethernet switch will still be useful.
The 2wire lan dhcp server needs to be disabled and connect a lan port to the other router/switch.
Cool at least I know it will work that way then but it's still no use to me since I don't have any need for the extra ports or the wireless signal (My place is pretty small and my Wii is the only wireless device I have).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065903 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:28:52 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065746 The 2wire lan dhcp server needs to be disabled and connect a lan port to the other router/switch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065746 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:02:28 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065567 said by wayjac:

You can still use the four port ethernet switch and the wireless.
That would still work??

Even so though I have a Linksys WRT4GL with Tomato MLPP, so switch and wireless are covered.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065567 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:28:56 EDT Re: Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065500 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065500 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:17:20 EDT Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065416
Trying to sell it to hopefully some Bell customer......
But I doubt that will happen.

So now I'm wondering what I can do with it?
At this point I don't really care if it gets fried or not but since I'm stuck with it, I might as well try something.

Either I find a user besides a door stop or a poke around the insides.

Any ideas where to start?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Got-screwed-with-2wire-modem-What-now-21065416 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:01:19 EDT