http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21067666 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:04:15 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:04:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083737 thechad : Yeah! Buy my Cisco phones in the for sale forum !!! Brilliant idea! ;)

Edgewater networks also has an all-in-one router/firewall/Wifi-AP/ATA/FXO with asterisk survivability. IMHO, it's the best thing since 6 packs!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083737 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:25:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083116 mazilo : If you can live with a limited functionality of a router, you may want to consider an old Cisco 7960 IP Phone (with SIP firmware) + switches to use as your router. IIRC, the IP Phone itself supports up to 6 VoIP lines with different VoSPs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083116 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:37:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083090 meister_sd : The other thing to think about when using an all-in-one is that the phone has to be next to the router. I have my router in the living room, next to the TV since that's where the cable comes in. My ata is in another part of the house, connected to the internal network. I also have more than one voip phone on my network, so that was another reason for me not to use a router/ata.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083090 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:33:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21080540 Juilo : there are many routers with built-in ata, like linksys RT31P2, RT41P2 for wireless. and also some ATA with built in routers like Audiocodes MP202, Xia302. the last one is a copy of MP202.

those type device save space, save plug, easy to management. the only thing is you have to decide to replace your old router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21080540 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:15:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21068287 PX Eliezer : mgraves1 has a good suggestion with IdeaSIP, and that service also peers with many other providers through SIPBroker so you can also call various other networks for free.

The same capabilities (including SIPBroker peering) are also available through various other providers, such as the free "IP Freedom" plan from CallCentric.
Link: »www.callcentric.com/rate_plans01.php]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21068287 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:40:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21067911 mgraves1 : You can do this already with many unlocked ATA/Router units. Several companies make them. Their primary advantage is that as a router they support network QoS for the VoIP.

All you need to do is register the ATA portion of the system with a SIP registrar. When it was free I would have suggested FWD, but they now charge $30/yr. IdeaSIP is a free service that would handle this.

You could also allow direct dialing of SIP URIs from the ATA and therefore not need a registrar at all. But then how would you enter SIP URIs into an analog phone plugged into the ATA? You'd likely be restricted to a contact list entered via the web interface.
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Michael Graves
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»blog.mgraves.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21067911 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:07:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21067666 anon : Any advantage to a router manufacturer if he included an ata with the router? No vosp, except you could call other users of the router.

If the user wanted, he could get into the ata screen and put in credentials for a vosp, same as an ata.

I think it would be pretty good - one less plug to plug in; one less cable to connect from the router to the external ata. Just plug the phone into the phone jack on the router.

If the router manufacturers could bury the hatchet a little, maybe they could make the routers compatible at least to the extent that dlink's router could call cisco's router and vice-versa.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21067666 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:03:17 EDT