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Re: [northeast] cat5 not allowed to be used in NYC for the ONT? said by kes601:said by Oregonian2:said by kes601:Actually Cat5 is fine for tv install, they would just hook up the coax to the coax lan port on the Actiontec. Cat-5 can't handle the TV video, AFAIK, Coax is needed for the tv install and is why they'd like to install internet-only installations using coax (so they can sell you TV services as well, something harder to do if installation is coax-free using just CAT-5). I am aware of that. You said they could not do Cat-5 from ONT to router if you have video service. This is INCORRECT. As I stated, they can do Cat5 from ONT to router they would then plug your coax into the coax LAN port of the Actiontec. This gives your STBs the guide info and VOD. Hence, CAT5 can be used at ONT if you have video service. Sorry if that's what I said, it's not what I meant. I meant to say that if you have video installed, coax must be installed to the house and so they want to install coax even for internet-only installations. |
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 ghot1
join:2003-05-27
Turtle Creek, PA
2 edits | yes ty we all know the obvious....there is both a coax port and a wan port on the actiontec....the REASON they wont do it is coz then id have 40 MB/s coz the cox carries both the 20mb/s AND the tv signal at diff frequencies....and Im not going to PAY for 40 mb/s so they said they wont do it...
the TV signal will NOT come over the cat5e it can ONLY come over the coax  |
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 louistAnd So It GoesPremium
join:2001-12-01
Oakland Gardens, NY
 ·Verizon FiOS
| I had Fios Internet and phone for about a year. The wire run from the ONT to my Actiontec is Cat 6.
Yesterday, Verizon finally installed TV Service (3 HD DVRs). They used my existing Coax for the new TV runs. The MoCA is coax to the cable port on the Actiontec. The WAN connection to the ONT (Ethernet) remains on the Cat 6 wire. There did not appear to be any issue with this style installation.
I had 20/5 Std FIOS before and speed tests indicate that the same is the case now. I am not interested in taking any service that I am not paying for. However it does not appear that this cabling setup is in any way delivering more than the 20 down I am a subscriber to.
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guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
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said by ghot1:the TV signal will NOT come over the cat5e it can ONLY come over the coax VOD is over the internet, so TV does come from the internet side when viewing on-demand which is different that your current cable provider |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:18
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said by ghot1:.the REASON they wont do it is coz then id have 40 MB/s coz the cox carries both the 20mb/s Why do you continue to post this misinformation about being able to get 40Mbps (20Mbps each over coax and cat5 at the same time)?
It is unfortunate that you were given incorrect information. Perhaps the person explaining it to you did not understand the technical reasons why it is not possible. However, continuing to post the same incorrect information in multiple threads serves no useful purpose.
• If you want to rant about it, then go to the »Rants, Raves, and Praise forum.
• If you want to make a formal complaint with Verizon, then post in the » Verizon Direct forum.
You have been told by multiple knowledgeable posters in this forum that it is NOT possible to provision your internet WAN connection over both cat5 and coax at the same time (and get 40Mbps). Here are two reasons why:
1} Your downstream internet connection is delivered over the 1490nm data stream on the fiber. Your bandwidth (20Mbps) on that data stream is provisioned at the VZ Central Office according to the speed tier that you pay for (again 20Mbps). At the ONT, that 1390nm data-stream can be delivered over either cat5 or coax (MOCA WAN). It can NOT be delivered over both at the same time, nor is there any way to get 40Mbps from a single 20Mbps data-stream. Upstream works the same way on 1310nm and is subject to the similar restrictions.
2) A residential account gets ONE and only one DHCP address. The cat5 and the MOCA WAN ports on the Actiontec have different MAC addresses. If they were to both to be active (which they can't) to the ONT at the same time, they would need two different IP addresses. |
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| said by More Fiber:You have been told by multiple knowledgeable posters in this forum that it is NOT possible to provision your internet WAN connection over both cat5 and coax at the same time (and get 40Mbps). Here are two reasons why: Or to say it simpler, the ONT receives 100% of the 622M (B-PON) or 2.4Gb (G-PON) bandwidth but only takes off the data addressed for that ONT. It then transports that picked-off data to the home's system through either the Coax or Cat-5, but it's still just that one data stream allocated for that customer. IOW there's only one internet datastream that's being directed over one of two interfaces. The download direction "metering" needs to be at the central office end else the system would be subject to a DOS attack. |
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